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Tim is right...those are all trends that originated in the US. But, are you saying that everyone likes the WWF and everyone likes McDonalds and everyone likes Dilbert, etc.? Try taking a world-wide survey and see what it's really like.
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I read the article. Drival! The guy is angry. Perhaps his children have been treated poorly, as mixed race kids often are.
I can only think of two instances where trek has shown two races from the same planet. There are black Vulcans, and the planet in 'Let This be Your Last Battlefield." There may be more, that were more subtle.
Only Earth is portrayed as being so diverse. Feringi, Klingons, Cardssians and Bajorans all seem to be of one race.
Babylon-5 was the same way. I remember a speach by Londo, where he was talking about how diverse Earth was compared to other planets.
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With Klingons we've seen light tan colored and dark brown races of Klingons.
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I didn't mind this ep ... your right ... this actress was good .. I liked her performance ..
The one thing that bothered me tho'..
When she was working on the Warp Drive for B'Elanna and she was working out the equation out loud in her new language, on such a culturally deverse environment such as the Federation, why did they react so strangly????!!!! i didn't get the racism - the ... race out of place syndrom there ??? How many Half-Klingons do you see on VOyager??? 1 ??
people look at Torres strangely at first, cuz she was always pulling a tantrum not cuz she was racially different .. they just accepted her Klingon behavior as default for someone of her race. It wasn't wierd!
Why should it have been any different. You'd figure with a crew who've encountered so many new and different races in their travels that they would not have been phased a bit at the way she fixed the problem .. in fact, I would have been intrigued; not miffed by how different she was!
I didn't understand that .. it seemed to go against everything Trek ..
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Klingons, almost universally, act aggressive and short-tempered. It's just a fact. Humans, especially ones in Starfleet, tend to think they're better than other races. Another fact. These aren't cultural stereotypes. They happen to be largely true. If a Klingon acts aggressive, we know it's because they're Klingon. If they don't act aggressive, that's okay, too. There's no racism involved.
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That's the point, though...externally, that's completely unrealistic.
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Frank: "But, are you saying that everyone likes the WWF and everyone likes McDonalds and everyone likes Dilbert, etc.?"
YES, this is exactly what I'm saying, Frank. Every single member of the human race likes these things. Every person living today is a Big-Mac-eating, Dilbert-quoting, WWF-watching maniac.
Of course that's not what I'm saying. Quit being an idiot. If you want to know what I'm saying, read what I wrote.
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Well, then, I guess we know are significant differences between individuals. But you wouldn't know that from watching Trek.
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Oh, yeah. Dukat and Garak act exactly alike. Duras and Worf, too. Oh, Martok and Gowron. Sybok and Tuvok. Rom and Quark. The list of species where all members are exactly the same is endless!
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Dukat and Garak are both stereotypically treacherous. Duras, Worf, Martok, and Gowron are stereotypically aggressive. Sybok and Rom were considered anomolies! See?
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I for one am sick of all this human stereotyping that goes on. Why, not a single human being is allowed to breath liquid nitrogen! And this isn't limited to any single program, either. It's across the board, people. Clear racism on the behalf of a vast cultural conspiricy!
To rectify this, I plan to create a show where all humans breath liquid nitrogen, and some have thirteen extra fingers, and one of them speaks backwards. I've actually pitched this in Hollywood once before, and it went over pretty well. Until halfway through filming the pilot, when I realized that all of the actors were dead and two of them had shattered into unrecognizable bits. But that's just because I couldn't find any non-oxygencentric actors! I'll try again. Uh, anyone care to audition?
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Sometimes I wish the planet would be scoured in cleansing fire. Other times I wish Sol would burn to a charred corpse while being crushed by a giant metal bird.
Your point is invalid. The cultures of intelligent species are not determined by the same factors that require them to breathe and so on.
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There were black Bajorans on DS9, just look very closely at the first few seasons of the series. As for why the people in Engineer looked strangely at Ballard, maybe it felt akward seeing someone who was supposedly dead for a few years.
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