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I agree with most of you here and with most of what you said, I still see more than just a "few" inconsistencies. I see one major "design" or "brainstorming" error real quick, and so did -Richard Whettestone- look here....
Enterprise NX-01 Akira Class
On the left we have a 250 year old spaceship Enterprise which doesn't have any phasers, shields or photon torpedoes, and can hardly meet Warp 4 without Captain Archer spending twenty minutes restraightening the picture frames.
On the right we have the advanced Federation starship Akira, equipped with modern up-to-date technology.
I see to many similarities for my liking. Really couldn't they have had some sort of fan design competition if they didn't have any ideas rarther than to just copy of a akira and give it a new paintjob.
Im not just sideing with -Richard Whettestone- ,look here, Daystrom Institute of TechnologyHe put "NX-CLASS" under the "other ships" link. Under his comments tab he says
"The centrepiece vessel of the Enterprise series, the NX class is unfortunately one of the most disappointing ship designs ever produced for Trek. When the idea of a prequel series was first mooted a few years ago, I was one of those who vehemently objected to it. The further back in time you go the more limited your technology becomes, and hence the more limited your scope for storytelling becomes. Given this, I felt that doing a prequel premise correctly would be a very difficult process which would require great attention to detail - something those in charge of Voyager were clearly unwilling or unable to give. Unfortunately, the design of Enterprise has already provided some justification for my concerns.
There has been, throughout all of Star Trek, a remarkably consistent trend in the look of the ships. Over the centuries they have become flatter, more streamlined and sleek-looking. Pick out any two ships designed in the same era and you will be able to pick out many very similar features, from the shape of the saucer section to the type of escape pod used.
Enterprise bucks this trend entirely. It was launched in 2151, after some 30 years of development. Take a look at the Daedalus class next to Enterprise and you will see what I mean. The Daedalus class was in service as of 2158, so if anything it is somewhat more advanced than Enterprise. Yet the two look nothing alike. Enterprise should either be a Daedalus class ship, or it should look something like a cross between a Daedalus and Valiant class, biased mostly towards the former. Yet only in the nacelles do we see anything even remotely suitable for this era.
Perhaps worse than the look of the ship are its capabilities. Warp 5 is just about right as the top speed for a ship of this period. But at this top speed, it should take Enterprise an average of eleven to fifteen days to get from one solar system to the next one over, and much longer to cross any significant distance. This could be accommodated by giving up on the 'one season = one year' concept which has been common to all Trek series since TNG. It would be relatively simple - have characters occasionally mention that weeks or months have passed between episodes, keeping track of when each episode is placed in the timeline so that references to visiting a planet "last year" were kept correct. The creators of Enterprise couldn't be bothered to pay this level of attention to detail of course, so the end result is that the Enterprise gets from place to place in an unfeasibly short time. As early as the pilot episode the ship reached Kronos in only four days, putting the Klingon homeworld only about one light year from Earth - the nearest star is over four light years away, and even this is far too close for the Klingon homeworld.
The ship's armament is also problematic. In the original series pilot episode "The Cage", the crew used hand weapons expressly described as lasers. It is not known if the ship's weapons at the time were lasers, although this seems likely. A few years later Starfleet changed over to phaser weapons for the regular series. In TNG's "A Matter of Time", Worf stated that there were no phasers in the 22nd century. Yet Enterprise has three 500 GigaJoule "phase cannon", and her crew carry "phase pistols". So now we are forced to believe that Starfleet gave up on these weapons and switched back to primitive lasers, then switched to phasers later on?
The ship's registry is shaky as well. The Voyager episode "Hope and Fear" featured a supposedly Federation ship named the USS Dauntless, NX-01-A. Although this ship turned out to be an alien fake, Janeway and her crew accepted the name and registry without any comment. Thus it stands that the original NX-01 was the USS Dauntless, not the USS Enterprise. Perhaps the numbering systems in use before the Federation was created were different, perhaps the NX/NCC system comes into use when the Federation is founded (which should be several years after Enterprise finishes). But if the creators wanted to use a different system, why then do they make it look identical to the existing one?
Some fans will say that only the few obsessives like me are concerned about such things, and to an extent they are right. But what on Earth is the point of doing a 'retro' series and promising the fans that we will see the exciting early days of star travel, only to then turn around and do everything exactly the same as you have been doing it all along?
I could think up fictional reasons to explain most of these problems and indeed some are covered elsewhere - most especially the speed issue, which is nothing new to Trek and is covered extensively in my "Warp Speed Anomalies" article. But quite frankly I can't be bothered. When I feel that people who care about the show they are making have made a genuine mistake because they are working under tremendous time and money pressures, I'll jump through hoops to try and explain things and have fun doing so. But when I feel that mistakes are being made because those in charge just couldn't care less about this aspect of their product and are largely contemptuous of those in their audience who do care, I see no reason to try and do their job for them.
Anyway, the basics of the NX class (and it is NX class, not Enterprise class) are as follows : she can do warp 5, but can only hold this for a matter of minutes; warp 4.5 - 4.7 is more comfortable for long term cruising. She carries three phase cannon which are rated at 500 Gigajoules, though they find a way to increase this tenfold in "Silent Enemy". They also have at least four forward facing torpedo tubes. The ship's hangar deck can hold four craft which enter through one of four separate hatches in the hull on the end of a docking arm. The ship normally carries only two shuttlepods. It has no shields, but the hull has "polarised armour", whatever that might be.
My rating of the weapons is currently rather above the stated 500 Gigajoules/5 Terajoules, for no particular reason other than to make the ship register on the lower end of my Ship Strength system."
-------------------- Captain Hawkins USS Delphronta
The NX/Akira comparison is refreshing with your new take on it. We probably haven't discussed it as much as we should.
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Yes actually I think im partially retarded, Missing parts of my Cerebral Cortex and Dr. Crusher tried to replace it with positronic nerocores... arg my blarny head!
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You're argument is tired and based on the words of other people. A quick search through this forum will show you that you are about a year and a half too late for this argument. We've had before, and everything that could have possibly been said has been said and said again.
You think Enterprise isn't good? Fine, everyone's welcome to his or her opinions. I myself think that Enterprise is failing to meet its potential. I can tell you what's good and bad about Enterprise. So far, you've offered up a website that offers "reviews" of Enterprise from a person who 1) has a bizarre logic system, 2) really does not seem to know as much about Trek as one would hope, and 3) tries and fails to use comedy as a positive means of making his point.
Please try again in your own words.
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or, don't try again. whatever you like. prerogative, and all that.
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Warb, you're losing friends and supporters around here very quickly. If I were you, I'd lay low for awhile. Right now, you're the shining example of newbies that we've had here and have learned to view as annoying and perhaps hate.
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