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If the Trek galaxy has clearly defined, purple-glowing boundaries, "outside" could very well be a relatively nearby and precise location... A planet happening to lie on the wrong side of the purple curtain would definitely be "outside", even if just a few hundred ly distant.
OTOH, Spock's labeling of everything strange as "extragalactic in origin" is very much in character with what else we know of Vulcan science (mainly from ENT). The Vulcans assume they a) know a lot and b) know exactly what they don't know yet, so c) everything else is unreal and not to be studied. And even most of the things in the b) category would have to lie outside the area explored by Vulcans, since surely they can't have missed anything that was in there...
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Brings whole new questions to the forefront as to why Vulcans would join a group of Humans out to "seek new life forms and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man/one has gone before."
Vulcans are the must conflicted species in Trek I think. No wonder they have such a thing as the Bendii Syndrome.
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Well, that wasn't the Federation's mandate, it was Starfleet's mandate, and the Vulcans apparently weren't all that eager to join Starfleet.
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Hi I was just wondering if anybody knows what ever happened to the model of the Doomsday Machine it self? Was it throen out with the trash when they were done with it. Just wondering and thanks ;-)
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I read something about that and apparently they threw it out I think. I would, it's just paper meshe (sorry if it's spelled wrong)
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There's no reason the Doomsday Machine couldn't have come from from another galaxy. If it had a method of sublight propulsion capable of propelling it at even 1/10th light speed, if it left a galaxy like Andromeda it would "only" take 22 million years to reach us, unpowered. Peanuts on compared even to the age of our solar system. And, if it knew where it was going, it could shut itself off and set its snooze alarm to wake it upon reaching our shores.
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Maybe. But, well, why? I can't see any logical reason why it should have originated from outside our galaxy, especially considering that Spock's reasoning is dodgy at best.
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Maybe. But, well, why? I can't see any logical reason why it should have originated from outside our galaxy, especially considering that Spock's reasoning is dodgy at best.
Possibly, but we don't know where those destroyed star systems were. If the farthest out ones were above the galactic plane and the thing was going in a relatively straight line, down into the plane, then Spock's conclusion would be "logical", especially if there were other yummy star systems just off its course that it ignored.
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a/ The Enterprise to have sensors that were able to detect the status of solar systems all the way to the galactic edge, or
b/ Starfleet to have already noticed that there was a string of destroyed systems going from the galactic edge all the way to the relatively small area of the Alpha Quadrant that the Enterprise was in, and for them to have not done anything about it.
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Yeah, but that would require either:
a/ The Enterprise to have sensors that were able to detect the status of solar systems all the way to the galactic edge, or
b/ Starfleet to have already noticed that there was a string of destroyed systems going from the galactic edge all the way to the relatively small area of the Alpha Quadrant that the Enterprise was in, and for them to have not done anything about it.
Then again, the galactic plane out in our neck of space is only 3000 light years thick...it's possible the Enterprise and Constellation were UP or DOWN there near the edge of that.
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