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Ahhh...season seven: home to only ONE really good episode (AGT, of course).
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That was almost essentially a reset episode too... I mean half the new stuff was from the future side of the episode so it didn't stick in the present. However, in a bit of saving grace it was a nice end to "Encounter at Farpoint" so it being a reset episode was forgivable [a rare occassion].
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Beverly Crusher - Hot. Deanna Troi - Not so much.
Wow, but that was an OK Western. Archer didn't bug me almost the whole time. When he punched that deputy, it wasn't a tactical decision. He was just pissed that he got his receding hairline punched earlier. That's like a human reaction. Hooray for him as a real character. Then they totally violated the non-existent Prime Directive without making a whole big continuity-bursting ordeal over it. Glenn Morshower was great as the Sheriff. Reed's "shoot-the-hostage" tactics were great, and though I'd kind of expected more from the Star Fleet Troopers, we did get to see them being a little useful. I'm impressed that they rationalized the speciesism of the humans by making them the descendents of human slaves. Good stuff, and interesting.
Alas, T'Pol was still characteristically totally not Vulcan at all. I'm at a loss for why Trip was even there. And that transport seemed to come together awfully fast. But I did think it was a good Ep. Well shot too.
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I would have liked to have seen T'Pol upset, or in the least Reed apologetic for shooting her.
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Just watched the ep, and it occurs to me that this would have been a good use for Mayweather; after all, assuming he is of African-American origin, at the same time as these people's ancestors were made slaves his ancestors might have been slaves. OK, a bit of an obvious parallel, but it could have been interesting if done right.
It was never established when these people were abducted, was it? At the end Bethany says the Wright brothers' flight took place forty years after, and the presence of Colt Peacemakers (and Winchester repeaters?) puts it at post-Civil War. . .
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Are you sure it was forty years? The "three centuries" comment earlier had me thinking 1850s, and I remember that the bit about the Wrights made me decide that it was after the Civil War, but I can't remember the exact number now.
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"Before people could travel through space to other planets, they had to get off the ground first. Almost forty years after my ancestors left earth, two brothers from Ohio became the first human beings to build a successful flying machine. Their names were Orville and Wilbur Wright. . ."
So, if we take "almost forty years" as more than thirty-five, say, about thirty-eight years, that would mean 1865. When were the two cowboy weapons first introduced? Both in 1873 according to these pages:
Of course, the whole idea doesn't really make sense anyway. Why would these slaves be allowed to keep their guns? Unless they were confiscated and reclaimed just before, during or after the revolt. Then you have to ask, would all the originals still be working, or would some enterprising blacksmith have made copies? In which case Trip's copy wouldn't have passed inspection by that stablehand; or maybe there are loads of different bootleg Peacemakers available on the planet.
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What if the 'almost 40 years' was AFTER they got there, not counting travel time, which might have been in statis.
The new planet certainly doesn't have the same length years and days as Earth. 40 local years might have only been been 30 Earth years.
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No, adding in stasis and/or travel time just adds to the forty years, since she's quite specific that the time period refers to when they left Earth, which had to be after 1873.
And, I guess she could be referring to local years, since although they now know what the date is meant to be in Earth years, the fact they're stuck on. . . whatever the planet was called. . . for quite some time to come means they might continue to use the local year as their calendar.
So a local year would be three-quarters the length of a Solar year, which means the planet would be closer to the sun, right? Planet looked quite dry. . . A local year of approx 275 days is longer than Venus's year (225 days), but then the local sun might not be as powerful as Sol.
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A planet orbitting a higher-gravity star, would orbit faster, even in Earth's orbit.
Now that I think about it, 19th century settlers wouldn't know about the length of the year, outside of a calender that they brought with them. More likely, they would get thrown off by shorter days. A 20 hour day wouldn't feel that differnt to them, but would make each year, um, a couple months shorter?
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