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Peregrinus: I'm assuming it's Federation for 2 reasons. The first is that (aside from TOS Romulan BOP) the saucer-2 nacelle design is typical federation (n=1 vs. n=30+). The second is that Data was looking at it in the computer files related to the "conspiracy". We also see the following ships: (1) FASA Ptolemy type (2) FASA Saladin or Hermes type (3) wanderer (4) 'neutronic fuel carrier' with the single Constitution upgrade nacelle.
All of these ships are Federation.
He was looking for evidence of a conspiracy in SF. To look over Romulan (or any other alien) data files would be relatively pointless.
Nimrod: That ship is the afore-mentioned 'neutronic fuel carrier' or whatever. It is scaled based on the single Constitution-upgrade nacelle.
Ben
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Ha...the FASA Lotus Flower-class civilian freighter. Always did like that design.
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Well, apparently Data did look into the secrets of an upside-down parrot with the head of Gene Roddenberry and feathers strangely remniscent of a Starfleet uniform. If that was relevant, then probably an Orion ship could have been, too.
Forgetting the in-jokes, it would definitely be a command decision to be reviewed if, say, Starfleet apprehended an Orion vessel and then inexplicably let it go...
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"Data was looking at it in the computer files related to the "conspiracy". We also see the following ships: (1) FASA Ptolemy type (2) FASA Saladin or Hermes type"
I'm going to be pedantic. (As usual.)
There is no FASA Ptolemy type. None of the FASA ships looks much like the Ptolemy. So anything that looks like a Ptolemy probably is a Ptolemy from the Star Fleet Technical Manual and not a FASA ship.
There is a FASA ship, the Nelson class scout, that looks very similar to the Saladin/Hermes. But I think that it's much more likely that something that looks like a Saladin/Hermes is a Saladin/Hermes rather than a Nelson.
As far as I know all the FASA ships that have ever appeared on display screens have come from the Star Trek Starship Tactical Combat Simulator rulebook rather than from the three Ship Recognition Manuals. The Wanderer and Lotus Flower are on opposite sides of the same sheet in the former book, the Nelson is only in the Federation Ship Recognition Manual.
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I have some of the "computer display" ships in my "uncertain" list http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/other_ships.htm but the Wanderer is not among them because it was supposed to be alien and looks rather alien. Many races use two nacelles. There might be ships with Federation registry, though, but in such a case we would have to include all the Antareses and other small cargo ships too.
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very very nice, but needs labeling for those of us that don�t know EVERY ship. perhaps inside the silhouettes themselves? I can identify all of the ships except about 10% of the federation ones. such as the wierd domed-sauser ship ajacent (up and right) to the new-orleans, the one above that (seems to have a promethous hull??), the four nacelled Nebula-like ship below the nebula class, and the two tanker-looking ships above the holoship.
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What are the 2 ships, directlyt below the Sydney on the far right? sorry if this has already been asked
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Timo: By the same argument, we can say that the Ptolemy and Hermes are also pirates. Obviously, we don't know, but given that 4 out of 5 are Federation, it seems likely that the 5th one is also Federation.
Identity Crisis: Fair enough, though they are Ptolemy, and Saladin/Hermes. I've never gotten into FASA ever, so I'm not familiar with them, other than to say those designs are pretty awful.
Bernd: many races use 2 nacelles, but how many use saucers and 2 nacelles (Romulans and Federation).
AndrewR: Yeah, because no one has drawn their front views. Several of these schematics have my front views (and side, and top), including the new Nebula variant. I will get around to doing them all eventually.
Wes1701: Great idea, I hadn't considered that before. I can probably finish that in an hour or so and post it up. Stay tuned.
The ship to the up/right of New Orleans is the Excelsior study model #2 seen in Unification and probably BOBW. The two tanker-looking ships above the holoship are the Huron and the Independence, both (I believe) from TAS.
I should have the finished charts up tonight. Thanks for your input. Again, I do have larger versions (400% larger) of these charts, but I don't want to 'break the bank'.
Ben
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Some ships are easier to scale, but believe me - I cringe at the Vidiian Ship 1 (aka Merchantman). I bet there are tons of modelers out there that could come up with better designs.
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