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Hi, i just found a Picture from the Nova-Class Bridge... i think this one was posted in one of the Fact-Files Issues. Don't ask me which one, i got this pic from a friend. Anyway, i hope it might be usefull... members.aol.com/sulpop/nova_bridge.jpg
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Thanks. I've been waiting for someone to post this bad boy. I loved that bridge set...or at least what we saw of it.
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I see it as yet another attempt to apply Voyager-esque set design into an older set. We saw the same thing with the Prommie, which had a nifty new forward console and chair combined with the standard movie wall consoles and TNG LCARS.
Same thing here, putting in a sunken command area similar to Voyager's and dropping the helm console down a couple more steps. It's a good compromise between redressing stuff and building a completely new set.
I also notice that the scale is much better with this FF drawing than others - the FF Sovereign layout is utterly cramped.
Mark
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so, uh.. what are all those stations for? assuming it's all symmetrical (and not counting the conn and command chairs), there seems to be six sit-down stations and two stand-up stations. seems odd for a ship that small -- you'd have to have 1/8 of the crew on the bridge to staff everything.
would the stand-up stations be mission ops 1 and 2, due to the Voyager-ness of the bridge? again, seems odd to need two m.ops stations on a ship that small.
as for the others, I suppose it's anyone's guess, since the bridge was only seen in "Equinox". (been a while since I saw part 2, and I never saw 1, so I'm a little hazy on the details)
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> so, uh.. what are all those stations for? assuming >it's all symmetrical (and not counting the conn and >command chairs), there seems to be six sit-down >stations and two stand-up stations. seems odd for a >ship that small -- you'd have to have 1/8 of the crew >on the bridge to staff everything.
That's not necessarily a big deal. ship that size would likely have a bunch of mission-specific palettes and modules that woudl not be operated in the various other compartments aboard ship. What better place to coordinate their use and allocation than from the bridge?
>would the stand-up stations be mission ops 1 and 2, >due to the Voyager-ness of the bridge? again, seems >odd to need two m.ops stations on a ship that small.
Well, Voyager does have two M.Ops stations, and the E-D had only one. Furthermore, the Defiant had an "Operations Table" or whatever it was at the back. I think it's a trend in ship design - and following on my previous comment, a small ship which coordinated all their scientific stuff from the bridge could use two of them. A big girl like the E-D would have stuff operated from their many, many labs around the ship.
>as for the others, I suppose it's anyone's guess, >since the bridge was only seen in "Equinox". (been a >while since I saw part 2, and I never saw 1, so I'm a >little hazy on the details)
I believe the stbd forward station was Tactical, as I remember that science officer guy firing from there in Part 2. I'd imagine the rest to be copis of the stations on the Prometheus. in fact, it wouldn't surprise me if they used the exact same LCARS artwork, painted over and blown up accordingly. http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/factfiles/prometheus-bridge.jpg
Mark
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Um, I can only count two chairs (command seats and helm not included). And those are of the oh so useful roller-equipped office chair type, so that the crew doesn't have to stand up to perform the little "on third the ship tilts to port, one, two, THREE" maneuver... They can simply roll across the deck, flaying their arms wildly. "Look ooooout!"
Personally, I think the bridge is supposed to be used mostly when the ship is hovering next to an interesting science target. Then each of the consoles is configured for a specific research duty, and the scientists freely move from station to station to check on the progress. They move the chairs accordingly. Few of the crew have any duties elsewhere in the ship at such a time.
To actually sail the ship, none of the wall consoles is needed; even the MSD console is there just for looks, as MSDs tend to be. Only the command chairs and helm are manned. Of the wall consoles, *all* were probably originally "science ops" consoles - even if Ransom converted some of them to more generic uses, say, to reroute engineering or tactical control from damaged systems etc. Or then the two stand-up consoles next to the MSD held engineering-related functions to begin with.
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Damn, those Fact Files figures are so cool. They always get such cool poses and all their chicks are hot!
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What bothers me is that none of the rear stations have desks, just wall-monitors. Those poor girls will get very strained shoulder- and neck muscles, being more dependent on ergonomical correctness.
Chairwise, I like the 1701-B chair-layout the best. Combined with Defiant-chairs. Mmm...
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The E-B *does* have chairs for everyone, but I mean they have chairs for *everyone*. Look at how crowded they are at the science and comm stations, with two people each. On the Enterprise-A, those same stations had only one person each!
As for the Nova's lack of chairs... Following on the idea that the bridge is ultra-reconfigurabe (as Timo and I independently posited), odds are that people may have to move around the bridge a lot, precluding the need for chairs. That, or there's some storage area in the corridor to port or starboard (can't remember which one - but I'm sure only one of those doors opens to a turbolift) that contains those generic office chairs, which are rolled out as needed.
A third alternative would be simply that the chairs had been destroyed or otherwise been made unavailable during the Equinox's five years of hell. When the FF gang made up the pristine bridge, they just forgot the chairs. I for one can't remember any chairs on the peripheral stations in the episode, apart from the one at the Conn station (which itself vanished for part two).
Mark
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Yah, even the seated stations on both the Nova and the Prommie bridges don't really have any arm support. You couldn't rest your forearms on anything.
You know, these two bridges look a hell of a lot alike Are you guys sure it wasn't the same set?
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Sorry. For some reason, the way I read it I thought we were talking about two different sets.
I'm ok now, though, honestly...
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