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A bunch of literalists.... you could drive someone freakin CRAZY!
SO Star Trek it is! Yeesh. I had assumed he meant Star Trek, not Star Trek [TOS--- hello that's why we use acronyms]... so I was going through all the ships that had a design shown on screen and were named at the same time --- or they had a design and later given a Class name. The New Orleans was not one of these [the name may have been given in Conspiracy and maybe again later... but never at those two times was the ship model shown on screen--- nor was a model shown later (those two ships either 1) destroyed in that episode and never shown before or 2) never shown because it was a historical reference from 20 years prior)]. I am not certain about the Ambassador Class--- out of the three or four times we've seen it I can't remember if one of those ships were specifically called an Ambassador Class. I can't remember any more right now...
Concerning NX vessels though. For TOS-VOY I'm considereing any NX vessels to have the same ship and class name. Thus Excelsior, Defiant, and Prometheus are respectively an Excelsior, a Defiant, and a Prometheus. And that assumption makes me believe that there are also NX in all classes.
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Then again, with Archer stating that the Enterprise is an NX-class starship, it raises an interesting possibility for registry numbers in that era. Perhaps the actual digits aren't locked out when you use them in a specific registry number. Depending on the ship class, we could see an NX-01, a J-01, a Y-01, etc. That is, of course, until they throw us another curve ball and give us a new class with a name instead of a letter code.
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Personally, I don't get what the big deal is about the ship's registry. I think Bernd was ranting about it on his website -- "In Voyager NX-1 was the 'Dauntless!'" But of course, until we know that pre-Federation Starfleet registry carried over into Federation Starfleet, it's a pointless discussion, isn't it?
quote:Originally posted by TSN: I've always figured that "starship class" is like saying "cruiser class" or "freighter class" or something. It was simply the terminology used in 2245 for that type of ship.
"Class 1 heavy cruiser" would be in the same category. Just, sometime between 2245 and whenever this newer term appeared, the E's classifiaction was changed. Just different terminology.
"Enterprise class" is a the simulator, not the ship.
And "Constitution class" is the actual class name of the ship, as derived per tradition from the prototype ship's name.
That, in my opinion, is the easiest, most sensical way to look at it.
I've got to go with the above as the most logical (and aesthetically satisfying) answer.
I will point out, though, that Starfleet designations for Romulan ships have included the phrase "B-type Warbird", referring to what is otherwise referred to as the D'deridex. Not to assume what I'm agreeing with, but perhaps there was a prior Warbird which, though rather "D'deridexish", wasn't quite the same, or was an earlier model.
Similarly, one could refer to a "B-type Constitution" . . . or, more properly, the "Enterprise sub-type".
The big problem I see with referring to the Enterprise post-2271 as "Enterprise Class" would be that you could then give a different class name to all sorts of mostly similar vessels . . . the USS Lakota from Deep Space Nine, which could also be referred to as Enterprise Class (or Enterprise-B Class).
And heaven forbid we start counting all those kooky-topped Nebulas. :-)
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