This is the turboshaft diagram that appears in the lifts in the film. It's very tough to make out how many tubes are in this, because of the clutter of what I believe to be labeling. I wish someone somewhere had gotten a behind the scenes still of this thing.
Fun stuff.
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I knocked everything but what's outside the ports to grayscale and did some edge enhancement and color boosting to make it clearer, but you can see the drydock and the pylon and the nacelle outside the windows.
Now, the other big mystery is how the Rec Deck fits vertically into the saucer, as it may be two decks high at the windows, but it's clearly too tall to fit in the saucer farther in (look at that ceiling and the height of the side walls!).
Oy!
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You are absolutely, positively, without a doubt, my new hero!
I never knew that the Enterprise-class designation had ever made it to film in any form. Now, I have evidence that it was used in TWOK, well before TUC.
So then, which designation from which film supercedes the other?
I suppose the “Constitution-classers” will argue that because Scotty’s schematic was more clearly seen in TUC, that takes precedence.
I will still stick to my guns regarding the Enterprise-class designation. However, since I believe in being fair and objective, I should mention that TWOK did make at least one signage blunder. In one scene where the crew is preparing for the battle with Khan, A sign can be seen that says "Torp Bay 4." And how many torpedo tubes does the Enterprise have?
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quote:Originally posted by Commander Dan: Spike, I suppose the “Constitution-classers” will argue that because Scotty’s schematic was more clearly seen in TUC, that takes precedence.
I will still stick to my guns regarding the Enterprise-class designation.[ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Commander Dan ]
Well, again, the ship seein in ST1-ST3 is one vessel, that seen in ST4-6 is a whole 'nother matter. The latter ship is very different (the corridors and everything), so maybe it's the "new model year" Constitution with the same body styling as the refit "Enterprise" classes (how Detroit), but wholly different guts.
Or maybe the refits were called Enterprise class until Kirk stole the ship, and Starfleet decided to go back to the original designation for PR reasons.
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quote:Originally posted by mrneutron: Or maybe the refits were called Enterprise class until Kirk stole the ship, and Starfleet decided to go back to the original designation for PR reasons.
LOL!
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I had never even thought about this graphic before. I like many others just assumed it was showing the low level defence fields energising.
I take it the DE has not restored this graphic. (I don't own a copy coz I'm in the UK) While I'm at it, does anyone know when the Region-2 release will be?
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OR...you can call it Enterprise-class & we can call it Constitution & we can agree that officially it's the latter, but you prefer the former for YOUR universe & yours along & won't push it on us as we won't push it on you & all is well & happy.
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quote:Originally posted by Shik: OR...you can call it Enterprise-class & we can call it Constitution & we can agree that officially it's the latter, but you prefer the former for YOUR universe & yours along & won't push it on us as we won't push it on you & all is well & happy.
Fine. Except that the “official” (or canonical, if you prefer) designation is now open for debate since Spike has now provided us with some visual evidence that the “Enterprise-class” designation made it on screen (albeit briefly) in TWOK.
Aside from that, I am quite content to agree to disagree.
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quote:Originally posted by Shik: By "official," I mean "the Party line." Fuck what's "onscreen."
Gee, that was tactful. And who defines “the Party line?”
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