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I drew the ship without battle damage, but i included some hull discoloration (much as the Encyclopedia diagrams of the Constitution class include some of the discoloration that Miarecki added to the original 1701 for the Smithsonian). To tell you the truth, without the scoring it looks pretty much like the original version, so I left it all on.
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and the top view is finished
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quote: In one of DS9's sixth season episodes, "The Sound of Her Voice" showed the wreckage of the U.S.S. Olympia, crashed on a planet. However, it was very hard to make the ship out in the scene. Do you have any idea what parts the wreckage was made from?
I think it has been pointed out a few times already that the Olympia wreck was a reuse of the STIII wrecked Enterprise and some other standard debris stuff (some S.S. Vico parts, according to some).
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Mike: What program did you use to draw that? It doesn't seem to handle round lines very well...
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I don't think that's caused by the program. The lines I draw use to be very blocky, too. There'S only one thing you can do - make it larger. The originals of my drawing are about 3000x2500 pixels, bmp. I resize them for 'presentation'. That's all. And I think that's the only way to get rid of that problem.
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confession time... Microsoft Paint.. the one that comes with windows.. we had a major blizzard here and thats how i killed an afternoon in school... when i resize it down further to fit on screens, however, the curves even out.. it looked even worse at the original size (around 2000px), but shrinking solves all that..
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I think I will show them at EAS, if you like me to.
BTW, I made a terrible mistake when I scaled the Miranda parts for the Centaur. They actually matched the true size of the Miranda relative to the Excelsior, but not that of the two plastic models (I measured the relative nacelle sizes, but for some reason didn't use them). Anyway, here is the totally revised Centaur. Please delete the old one!
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I would be honored to see my picture on your page :-D .. a hyperlink back to http://www.captainmike.org would be awesome as well, and feel free to attach my e-mail, [email protected]
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Here's a rather sloppy re-touch of the Raging Queen sideview. The aft dome-thingee is rough, but I tried. If someone wants to fix it, I'd be pleased...
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Forgive me my ignorance master but, how is the saucer section of the Raging Queen connected to the hull??? Just by this littles aft bridges???
BTW, this little bridges are parts of the AMT/Ertl Runabout Kit (The parts where the cockpit is connected to the cargo module)
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Bernd's revised Centaur schematic doesn't look to quite match the model. The Miranda bridge piece would be about three decks high, and the line separating the bridge from the navigation dome is just slightly above the top edge of the forward cowling.
Granted, you could fit shuttlepods and workbees in that space if it's a shuttlebay, but having a physical model to roll around and look at from all angles, it looks better as a deflector... Besides, I use the Enterprise-B saucer, so I've already got shuttlebays.
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quote:Granted, you could fit shuttlepods and workbees in that space if it's a shuttlebay, but having a physical model to roll around and look at from all angles, it looks better as a deflector... Besides, I use the Enterprise-B saucer, so I've already got shuttlebays.
Or additional impulse engines depending what you buy into... 8^)
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Harry: Yes, I remember reading the discussion about the Olympia. After reading it again, I see that there really wasn't any conclusive evidence whatsoever about what was used, other than what people "thought" they saw. I just figured that someone official like Drexler or Hutzel could give us better information, or possibly even photos that look better than the rain & cloud filled screencaps.
Here's my take on the Centaur (yet again): It's a perfect candidate for the Rennaissance class. Using Bernd's theory that the ship is actually scaled to the Miranda weapons pod & bridge (making the ship smaller than the Miranda), we can make assumptions based on the description of the Rennie class Aries. The Aries was described as a small scout ship. It's registry number is in the 4XXXX's. It has at least one shuttlepod, so there's the need for a shuttlebay. The last one was built in 2337. Only the Hokkaido had ASRV's.
All of these factors match the Centaur. It's a small ship (since the flyby between it and the Jem'Hadar fighter showed it to be roughly the same size). It's registry is in the 4XXXX's. It has a shuttlebay at least as large enough to accomodate one shuttlepod. Since no more Rennie's were built after 2337, the Excelsior/Miranda technology was probably at it's peak. Since no ASRV's can be seen on the ship, it probably has either the standard Exclesior-type escape pods (whatever those look like), or no escape pods at all.
Yes, I realize I'm pulling at straws here. But I thought it was a good match, based on the evidence we know for the class.
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I know this isn't really contributing to the discussion, but didn't the TNGTM state that the Hokkaido was the first ship of it's class to be fitted with ASRVs during the construction period or immediately afterwards and some if not all of the rest of her sister ships were later fitted with ASRVs as well?
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