Amasov Prime
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Has Drexler recieved the second mail already? I think this is part of his plan; he wants to make us go insane (at least those who aren't yet ). I'm sure Berman told us to do so. There you have it, the conspiracy-theory was right.
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Well, now that we've gotten it to six pages, we musn't stop now! ON TO SEVEN!
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OK, I emailed Drexler today. Seems The_Tom was right after all...he's busy with Enterprise stuff. Here's my email to him (MMoM, take note):
Dear Mr. Drexler,
Hello again! I had emailed you about two weeks ago with some questions I had about the kitbashed models which you drew for the DS9 Tech Manual. I was wondering if you had found any reference photos yet. I do realize you are a busy man and I apologize for pressing you if you just haven't had a chance to look...thanks...
Mark Delgado
And here's his response:
Forgive me Mark, it's been really busy with the wrap up of season one hurtling toward us. I promise to dig stuff up for you over the weekend.
Doug
So there's still a chance after all that we may get to see those pics...however, let's take his email with a grain of salt. I'm guessing he won't get back to me for some time.
Mark
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Amasov Prime
lensfare-induced epileptic shock
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Arrr....
give, give, give!
There's a small but bright spot at the end of the tunnel. And it seems we just started moving towards it again.
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: So there's still a chance after all that we may get to see those pics...however, let's take his email with a grain of salt. I'm guessing he won't get back to me for some time.
Now, now. You make it sound like him not getting back to us is a bad thing. But they way I see it, the longer he's occupied, the more time we know went into designing HOREDS AND HOREDS OFF KIC@$$! @NDORRRIEN SPACESHiPS! & LOTZ OF KEWL SULIBAN WEAPONS AND XPLOSHINs AND SHIZAT!Which is fine by me
I mean, honestly, a month ago we didn't even know these pictures existed. We got by from day-to-day, didn't we?
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Yes, when we didn't know about them...now that we do it's positively agonizing. It's like, what you've always wanted, but you thought it didn't exist so you learned to forget about it, but now someone tells you it does exists and dangles it in front of you. It...well...sucks.
Then again, I have an instant-gratification problem. I hate waiting. It's part of what makes me certifiable.
-MMoM
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The day you�ve all been waiting for has arrived�DREXLER HAS SENT ME PHOTOS!
So far he has sent me five pics, but there�s a total of sixteen pics in all. For some reason, he had trouble sending all of them, so I should get more later. Anyway, here�s the rundown of what he�s sent me so far:
Photo 1: side-view of the ship we all thought was the Curry (�Excelsior/Constitution-class starship variant� in the DS9 Tech Manual). Photo 2: top view of the same. Photo 3: top view of the ship we all thought was the Voyager study model (�Intrepid/Constitution-class starship variant� in the TM). Photo 4: side view of the same. Photo 5: side view of the Constitution-class starship variant.
Now, for the commentary�
I�m afraid we haven�t given Mr. Drexler enough credit. His drawings in the tech manual are indeed correct & precise to the models. As a matter of fact, his drawings look better than the models. All of the models are painted a dull yellow, or perhaps that�s just how the light is hitting them. I have to say that these are some of the worst kitbashes I�ve ever seen. The good news is that the pics are very large, & I can read the names and registry numbers on the top views. Anyway, here are the facts about the three ships:
Ship#1: Contrary to former speculation, this ship is not named the �Curry.� Its name is actually the �Raging Queen�! No lie. Its registry number, again different from what we thought, is either NCC-42264 or 42284. The nacelles are placed as they are in Drexler�s drawing, so apparently they were turned before filming. The shuttlebay is in front of the ship; the only error in Drexler�s depiction. Besides the regular nacelle pylons, there�s also some thin pylons near the rear of the ship holding the nacelles.
Ship#2: Very interesting indeed. No, this is NOT the Voyager study model. In fact, from what I can see, it is an Intrepid saucer attached to the back of a Star Wars A-Wing fighter! The secondary hull in Drexler�s drawing is actually one of the A-Wing�s engines, so there might even be two hulls there. The runabout pylons are attached to the A-Wing fighter�s wings. The Constitution nacelles are exactly as Drexler drew them, even right down to the little yellow stripe. The ship�s name is the U.S.S. Elkins, and the registry number is either NCC-74121 or 74101.
Ship#3: No name or registry info from the side view, I�m afraid. But yet again, the ship�s design is the same as Drexler�s drawing. Hopefully he�ll send me a top view so we can see just how far apart the nacelles are.
That�s it for now. Once I get all the pics, I�ll ask him if it�s OK to distribute them.
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Sweet merciful crap!
*utter fanboy joy*
of course, we should recognize that the Raging Queen could have been relabeled Curry at the same time its nacelles were rearranged.
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Question is, was it changed before or after filming? In other words, when were the pictures taken? Not that it's all that important, though. Just a thought.
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I would like to know when we can see the pictures. If you need a place to post them, I have room on my website if you want to e-mail them to me. Let me know.
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Some things I forgot to mention: The Raging Queen has no "U.S.S." before the name, and it's the only ship of the three with battle damage.
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