Top view to follow. Anyway, I'm planning to create a page for the research of the kitbashes. Don't know if anyone is going to do something similar, of if you want to hepl, tell me.
Back to the ship; do you think I should add windows? The model itself has no windows allthough the model-kits (Excelsior and Enterpirse-B) have plenty of them. I think the ship could be some sort of ablative armor-prototype, and the windows have been removed from the design. Same reason why the Defiant has no windows.
And please, don't complain about the color.
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Well, if you're going to add windows, you'd best change the color scheme back into something remotely normal. That is, after all, what they did on the show - we had no idea that the Yeager bash was all rainbow-colored until we saw these pics, since the model shot was color-corrected to a normal scheme.
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Yeh really nice. I don't know what help I can offer, but I'm planning a new 3D project which concentrates on building some of these DS9 Tech Manual ships. Funnily enough, starting with the Medusa, so in fact your picture will certainly help me some.
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The color scheme, yes. I had the ship with the basic color of the picture at first, but the think looked butt-ugly, so I changed it to 'Sterfleet-standard-light-grey'. The dirty look seems fitting, the original model had much brighter colors. I think I'll change the color of the other ships, but I think the colors for this one are good.
I tried the thing with windows, but it dodn't look 'real'. So I'll probably leave it this way.
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She probably takes after her mother... ALL her mothers.
Why does it have two bridges, BTW? The upper warp nacelles looks like it could use a bit more reinforcing, where the Excelsior part joins with the main hull. All the thrusters on your saucer section are pointing downwards, which might make certain course changes difficult. Is that a Ent-B shuttlebay or impulse drive?
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quote:She probably takes after her mother... ALL her mothers.
Why does it have two bridges, BTW? The upper warp nacelles looks like it could use a bit more reinforcing, where the Excelsior part joins with the main hull. All the thrusters on your saucer section are pointing downwards, which might make certain course changes difficult. Is that a Ent-B shuttlebay or impulse drive?
The model has two bridges, too. I changed the color a little bit to suggest the lower bridge could be some sort of Miranda/Constitution-sensor-dome. I'll work on the nacelles, but if you think the yellow things around the saucer rim are thrusters, I have to disappoint you; I have no idea what it is, maybe cargo bay doors like the ones we've seen on the Constellation-rim. Same for the shuttlebay-things; the E-B model has those two auciliary shuttlebays left and right of the middle impulse engine, allthough they look like impulse engines, too. This model, however, has no doors. Imagine a model with missing shuttlebay door parts, where you can look inside the kit. That's the way this one looks. What I took as conduits and other stuff visible inside is actually the inside of the kit, plastic bubbles and such stuff.
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WOW Nice Work! First please forgive me for my ignorance, I havn't seen the pictures yet but how do we know which side is up? Also do we know that this ship only has 3 engines from the schematic, It looks like it could possibly have 4 nacelles either that or it appears that the nacelle for the 3 nacelle is slightly of center.
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There's one shot from above and one side-view. That's the base for assuming the ship from the DS9TM is upside down. And the top view reveals the lower engine is connected to the saucer with two Constitution-phylons.
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Amasov! Can I just say I LOVE THAT MEDUSA DRAWING! Woooo! That first one - with the colour does look better. I really really like what you have done.
I've got to ask - what program did you use... is it easy to use... and where can you get it!?! ;o)
I have another theory now and the nacelles of this baby...
Look at the top two... the seem to be sort of 'dangling' off the edge. Maybe these nacelles are 'emergency nacelles' brought into to hastily replace damaged/destroyed nacelles allowing ships to be able to go to warp. They might have a number of old exxie nacelles lying around and can bring them in when needed - they just slot them on. Maybe the original version of the ship had another nacelle on top with two pylons similar to the bottom!?!
Anyway. I love your pic, and I'd LOVE to see you do more ships - even ships we've seen - I'd like to see the FC ships done in your style - I'm sick of seeing the encyclopaedia schematics of them - they seem to be the only ones on the net.
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Yeah, I'm wondering about that, too. I can speak from experience that that whole EXC "warp blob" assembly with the pylons on would NOT be able to stay there like that. There's gotta be interior reinforcement there. Indeed, closer examination reveals some sort of "conelike apparatus" extending out from & around the aft end of the blob.
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quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Amasov! Can I just say I LOVE THAT MEDUSA DRAWING! Woooo! That first one - with the colour does look better. I really really like what you have done.
I've got to ask - what program did you use... is it easy to use... and where can you get it!?! ;o)
I have another theory now and the nacelles of this baby...
Look at the top two... the seem to be sort of 'dangling' off the edge. Maybe these nacelles are 'emergency nacelles' brought into to hastily replace damaged/destroyed nacelles allowing ships to be able to go to warp. They might have a number of old exxie nacelles lying around and can bring them in when needed - they just slot them on. Maybe the original version of the ship had another nacelle on top with two pylons similar to the bottom!?!
Anyway. I love your pic, and I'd LOVE to see you do more ships - even ships we've seen - I'd like to see the FC ships done in your style - I'm sick of seeing the encyclopaedia schematics of them - they seem to be the only ones on the net.
Andrew
Thanks.
Micrografx 8.0 is the program I use. Before I got it I used Paintship, but this one is easier to use, allthough it lacks some Photoshop features. And as far as I remember, I got the the budget version (I think they are allready at 9.0) for €15 (or do you write it 15€? No idea... ). It's very easy to use if you know some small 'tricks'.
My nacelle theory was another one: What if the ship originally used 2 nacelles? the two at the top? The third may have been added when the ship was heavily damaged. I imagine some sort of Akira-secondary hull, an Excelsior hull directly attached to the saucer. The thing was blown away and Sterfleet used abother saucer to replace it. Maybe they added the third nacelle to increase her spead. If the warp core was running down from the top of the saucer to the bottom of the secondary hull, it was destroyed, too and replaced with a smaller one. To compensate this, they added a third nacelle to create a stable warpfield with a lower amount of energy.
OK, the theory is a little bit far-fetched, but I really have no idea why they would add a third nacelle, connected with the main budy with two instead of one phylons. In other words: Why does the lower nacelle need the energy of two main plasma conduits running down instead of just one, like any other nacelle.
Hey, maybe I'll sketch up the thing I imagined. I'm sure it will look a lot better tha this thing.
And for my 'future projects': I first wanted to complete the kitbash ships for my project, and then go on with something new. I always wanted to try the Freedom. Maybe I'll do the Norway or Steamrunner, too. Because you are right, the FC-ships look really ugly.
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Well, in terms of theories about the ships, I have to beleive that these ships how ever ugly probly were not built just for the war. The expense in time and resources of trying to connect odd componets and systems plus the fact that these ships have older regesties indicates to me that these ships were clearly design not in a state of emergency but rather as normal ships. Why go to all the trouble when you could reactivate moth-balled ships or construct new mirandas or excelsiors, quicker then it would take to combine odd parts and make a whole new design.
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Hey, I came up with something that might have been the original configuration of the vessel. If you ask me, it looks like a Mediterranean-class vessel (not that I would know how a Mediterranea-class vessel looks like, but...)
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). It's very easy to use if you know some small 'tricks'.
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