Anyone want to place bets on whether the NX-01 will mysteriously appear in the "grand ship display" that's traditionally in the Conference Room behind the Bridge?
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quote:Anyone want to place bets on whether the NX-01 will mysteriously appear in the "grand ship display" that's traditionally in the Conference Room behind the Bridge?
I don't think the NX-01 should be in this display? It's not a ship of the Federation Starfleet.
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Are we going to have to put up with this bullshit for another six years?
Oh, and based on that ET report, the ship display that all of you have your panties in a knot over is gone, replaced with a big honking display terminal.
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Not necessarily.. The room shown in that ET report doesn't match up with the one we saw in First Contact. While the room itself is about the right size, the doors are on the side(s), and not at the front wall. They can't possibly lead back to the bridge from there. Methinks they're just using a conference lounge somewhere else on the ship, which they've often done during TNG's run - the E-D had several other conference lounges identical to the one aft of the bridge, except they emptied out into a standard corridor rather than the less featured onw leading to the bride or turbolift. I believe Geordi used one on the leading edge of the saucer at least once, to look at something outside the ship.
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But the windows to the TNG Conference Lounge wouldn't match up with anywhere else on the ship...
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um.. that doesnt mean they didnt do it. The Ten-Forward windows dont match any exterior windows either.
For the record, Geordi had to look outside in 'Justice'.. and i never understood how kids would get to deck 1, so the scene where they found the kids in the conference lounge in 'The Last Outpost' might fall under this. I also noticed watching 'Ensign Ro' that the wall where the ships are sposed to be had some generic supprt/decorative greebles there instead..
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quote:Originally posted by CaptainMike: I also noticed watching 'Ensign Ro' that the wall where the ships are sposed to be had some generic supprt/decorative greebles there instead..
That's the late-TNG conference lounge. It was changed in s4 or s5, IIRC. Actually, I don't really remember.
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actually i recall that now.. thats why, in AGT, they made a big deal of doing a closeup of Picard Year One walking by the gold ships to establish the era...
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It should be mentioned that no "ships named Enterprise" display has ever been complete, and we shouldn't assume that being complete is their purpose.
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yes, each display is missing one aircraft carrier, and the World War I Large Motor Powered Boat U.S.S. Enterprise, the C.S.S. Enterprise, a few variations of wooden sailing Enterpri(z)es, the NX-01, the ring ship, and at least two others that they havent realized they are planning to make up, for example the fact that the AC Ent is going to be decomissioned and some other Enterprise would seem likely to be made by the US til then
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The E-E lounge has already demonstrated TNG-like multiple personality symptoms. In "Insurrection", the set was used for a facility down on deck nine, the one where the diplomatic reception was held, complete with a fancy telephone booth to the side.
To be sure, there are lounge windows back there on deck nine - they are just significantly bigger than the deck one lounge windows. There are also other sets of windows that could be said to roughly match the lounge ones, so the set can be used for those rooms as well. We could assume that one of those is intended in "Nemesis".
In "Justice", Geordi peeked out from a starboard saucer rim lounge, IIRC...
The CVN-65 was in the TNG-display. In the FC display were just Federation Starfleet ships named Enterprise, so I don't see a reason why they should include a non-Federation vessel.
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But why doesn't it show up in any of the permutations? Not in TMP, not in TNG, not in the count of the Temporal Investigations officer, not in the choice of Holodeck bridges in "Relics". In the latter two cases, both the computer and the TI officers automatically assume that the Federation Enterprises are meant, whereas Sisko could've easily met the NX-01 (we don't know enough about the ring ship to tell if it even flew long enough).
If it's a simply that there isn't enough space in the displays, then the ship must be as significant or less significant than the space shuttle, the aircraft carrier or the ring ship. Since the aircraft carrier has shown up more often, it probably is more significant than the NX-01.
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Or maybe when Archer travels forward in time and meets Picard in the third season of Enterprise, Picard decides he's a jerk and purposefully doesn't include his ship.
Who knows. Of course we know the real reason NX-01 isn't in any of the displays is because it hadn't been thought of yet. I choose not to dwell.
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