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Veers
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I've read on a lot of websites that there was a Miranda-class starship seen as one of the ships in the 6 ship task force at the end of "Way of the Warrior." Some say that it's the USS Trial.

Anyway, I have just watched the episode, and I did not see a Miranda anywhere. Just the Venture (a Galaxy) and two Excelsiors. Does anyone have a pciture of this Miranda? Perhaps I missed it, or another ship was mistaken for one.

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Look at the far left of your tv screen. It's docked ot one of the airlocks on the outer ring (the type that the Defiant docks to) facing toward the right of the screen. And I'll never understand how a Miranda could dock in the configuration. And it could be the USS Trial, but one of those Excelsiors are just as likely to be named that. Or even one of the two remaining and unseen ships.

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It'd be interesting to know if that's the full-blown Miranda model (last seen reconfigured as the Saratoga from "Emissary," IIRC, so it would have had to go back into the shop to restore the roll bar) or if it's the ERTL USS Reliant kit gussied up sufficiently to appear onscreen for a split second.

To pull a CaptainMike,
(R-E-L-I-A-N-T) - (E-N) = (R-L-A-I-T) = (T-R-I-A-L)

[ May 30, 2002, 00:43: Message edited by: The_Tom ]

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Mark Nguyen
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I do believe I've got a picture here... Copy & paste.

http://www.geocities.com/practical_unicorn/bridges/DS9Fleet.jpg

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perhaps this is the extant Miranda CGI, not the physical model

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Page is unavailable, Mark...
Yeah, I watched the scene again and saw the Miranda docked at the station. I must've thought it was the Defiant.

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You gotta copy & paste the URL.

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Does anyone think that's its wierd to have a 6 ship fleet defend DS9 from a Klingon task force that could number in the thousands when reinforcements come? Unless those Excelsiors and Mirandas are super ships, I doubt they could do anything vs. the Klingon fleet. Granted the Klingons were not afraid of the fleet, they were worried about the Federation joining the war against the Klingons.

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I think you answeredyour own question. Isolated skirmishes between the Klingons and the Federation are not uncommon (at least during TNG), and depite the size of the attacking fleet that time this could easily be counted as such. But if the incoming ships were fired upon, and as unlike DS9 they were full Federation assets, that would totally draw the Klingons into war. They were prepared to take on the weaker Cardassians, but sure as hell not the Federation in all-out conflict - especially when Gowron realized that this would leave both of them to be steamrollered by the Dominion afterwards.

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You didn't see the twenty starships behind the camera.

And I think we're talking a little early chronologically for entirely-CGI Federation ships on DS9.

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There were only 15 starships sent to defend DS9, who knows what the rest of the Fleet was up to? Besides, DS9 had already laid waste to a few dozen Klingon ships out of maybe 60-ish.

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OK, I see the Miranda now...how do they get a ship docked like that?

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Duct tape, obviously. There's no physical docking port on the model along the bow of the saucer... I'm guessing that the Miranda in question is simply hard-docked there using the DS9 clamps, though the reason why is beyond me. Alternatively, perhaps the Miranda was somehow helping out with the station repairs, and was hovering a few meters off the docking port to shine floodlights, or run umbilicals.

And David, dialogue specifically notes that Admiral Hastur's task force is composed of "six starships, led by the Venture". We see four of them here; one wonders if this is an actual task force, or simply a squadron cobbled together from locally-available ships...

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Considering how long Mirandas have been around, though, and many different niches they have been adapted too, it isn't outside the realm of possibility that this particular one has a docking port there.
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It's been too long sine I really watched DS9. ;_;

It's also possible that the docking port has some sort of extendable dock, they can't always have a docking pylon free for ships without a skinny part to slide into that area.

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