quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: The new warbird seems to be at least 50% larger than the old TNG one. In the article that the pic came from mentions that Picard has to zoom out to see the entire ship. That is one biiiig birdie, when you figure that the Enterprise crew was certainly expecting a TNG warbird. I like it: I can build it once specs become available: It looks cooler than the TNG version IMHO and waaay cooler than the Scimitar.
I thought the Scimitar was the one that was supposed to be so huge?
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: And no, those are not Dominion nacelles.
No one said they are, only that they look like them. Just as this looks like a Klingon BoP and the Scimitar looks like a Dominion Battleship.
I'm not impressed by this at all. I was expecting a D'deridex with... I dunno, fins or something. Why are all the "new" designs for important ships rip-offs of old ones?
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One thing that I am hopeful of, though... They're obviously putting some effort into designing new ships for this movie (their argueable lack of quality notwithstanding). I am somewhat hopeful that we'll get to see one or two new Federation designs as well. Maybe Riker's ship.
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I think it looks peachy. Whereas scale maybe decpetive at first glance, the teeny little windows on it suggests that it really is quite massive.
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Well, it looks a bit too close to the basic layout of the Klingon Bird-of-Prey, but it's still a very cool design. I can't wait to see it on the big screen.
As for the size of the thing, most of the online references I've seen suggest a length of 1400 meters -- twice that of the Enterprise-E. But in "reality," the D'Deridex was somewhere around 1341 meters... at least originally.
I don't see anything that would suggest a double-hull design -- from what I can see on the picture, there's nothing "underneath" aside from the normal starfield.
And those nacelles do look similar to those on the Dominion heavy cruiser ("Call to Arms"), IMO. Obviously not the same design, but the curves look alike.
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Naw, I've built the Dominion heavy cruiser, and it's nacelles are more pontoon-like in shape. The nacelles on the new Warbird most resemble extra fuel tanks from a jet fighter.....it also adds to the deceptive size/scale aspects.... If the new Warbird is 1400 meters long, it would have to be 1700-1900 meters across!!! Much larger than even the Dominion battleship in width and almost as long in length. this thing would dwarf the Enterprise E.
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Judgeing by the window size, I don't believe the vessel should be larger than the D'deridex, on the other hand, Sovereign is 700 meters and looks tiny, if you just compare the windows.
- Take 1 head of a TNG Romulan Warbird - Add the neck, tail and wings of a Klingon Vorcha class attack cruiser - Mount some oddly-Dominion-like-looking nacelles - Paint the ship in a blackish green instead of the TNG Romulan green (which was much lighter) - Step on the damn thing and squash it to make it look flat=sleek=geekish=COOL
Enjoy...! (Although I didn't. I don't like it very much... have to see it onscreen though to make my final judgement)
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quote: I was expecting a D'deridex with... I dunno, fins or something. Why are all the "new" designs for important ships rip-offs of old ones?
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quote: Paint the ship in a blackish green instead of the TNG Romulan green (which was much lighter)
Which is a good thing, as Warbirds haven't been a TNG green colour since "The Die Is Cast" (and I'm not even sure they were then).
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And while I was at it, I could not help myself from putting a different sort of fin on a Romulan ship: Thei: "Tell the Federation--" Ackbar: "It's a trap!" Thei: "Yes, I was getting to that. Tell the Federation...it's a trap."
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I was thinking that it had a few fighter-esque qualities to it also, the shape and feel gives it the appearance of a smaller, more manuverable, vessel.
Looks cool still though....
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^ I was talking about extra weapons and attachments like the Future Enterprise had, on the Nemesis site, it says that there are upgraded Warbirds with these sort of features. Although I can't remember any Finnish on Star Trek, it would be nice to see them.
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I was expecting a D'deridex with... I dunno, fins or something. Why are all the "new" designs for important ships rip-offs of old ones?![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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