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Now that makes the Valore seem even more black and un-Romulan.
And no one's going to tell me the Warbirds on DS9 had a color that looked anything like the Valore's.
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Because, as we all know, Romulan warships have never been painted anything but bright green. The BoP from Balance of Terror and the scout vessel from The Defector were of the same tint! Yes.
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quote:And no one's going to tell me the Warbirds on DS9 had a color that looked anything like the Valore's.
Are we allowed to tell you that the Romulan ships on DS9 were a different colour to the ones on TNG? And that species are actually allowed to use different colours on their ships?
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Wait a minute... the warbirds on DS9 and the scoutship/science vessel weren't colored green(ish)? When did that happen?
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That's what I guessed... I thought I had missed something and DS9 started showing jet-black warbirds. Honestly, though, the mesh as seen on Voyager and in Starship Spotter/Ships of the Line still looked pretty green...
God, I miss the D'deridex already.
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Welcome to space. TNG always looked like there was a big flashlight on all the ships (and in fact they did!) until around 5th season. DS9 was visually always darker than the other shows....to match the overall tone of the show. We have only seen a total of five Romulan ships before Nemesis, so who is to say what a Romulan ship should look like? .....although many of the FASA designs were pretty good...Valdore lookslike an updated FASA design to me!
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"We have only seen a total of five Romulan ships before Nemesis, so who is to say what a Romulan ship should look like?"
Arrgh I hate these types of lines (no offence).
Until the opening scene of Encounter at Farpoint, we had only seen 5 Federation ships... but we knew what a Federation starship should look like.
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Just reprising what I said in a thread in the General Trek forum...
I decided to have a look at this new ship, when I clicked the link and saw it for the first time... I laughed! LOL!
What a joke, it looks like something culled from a computer game!! Infact worse.
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DS9 D'Deridex's weren't intentionally painted darker - it's the CGI problem. The CGI models are rendered with less resolution when they are moving (which would be EVERYTIME on a TV show)... it gives less clear pictures and caps (especially).
And to Liam's quip about the Haven ship... I'd rather that over-used ship with the child's lawnmower toy in it than a lot of the crap served up by Eaves.
What happened to the 24th century artistic/futuristic/lovely curved ships. What is with all this 'pointy/spindly stuff'!?!
Love them or hate them These ships say 24th century to me:
The Galaxy family and shuttles Runabouts The Intrepid D'Deridex Rommie Scout/Science vessel Ferengi Marauder Ferengi Pod Klingon Vorcha Klingon Negh'var/Voodieh Defiant Cardassian Galor and Keldon Cardassian Hideki Hope/Olympic Dominion Bug Bajoran ship (That Kira commanded) McKinley station Terok Nor Peregrin/Fedfighter/Maquis ships
Maybe:
The Akira Sovvie Jemmie Battlecruiser Jupiter Station New large Cardassian/Dominion station Klingon station (Ty'gok'or)
What doesn't:
Rest of FC ships Lakul Breen Ship This new Rommie ship The Son'a shite The new Captain's yacht Data's scout New Suttle That Argo ship The Holodeck ship Pathfinder array
This "doesn't" list includes the most "gamish" un-artistic, dark, poorly lit, pointy, unfuturistic, fanboish and majorly UNREALISTIC designs on Trek.
Realism people - that's what trek holds for me. I can picture walking the decks of the Enterprise, or making my way onto the bridge of a D'Deridex Warbird... This shite ship shown... looks like something you'd be able to select in level 10 of some Trek computer game. press F10 to target, right click on your mouse, fire. etc.
It's the design, but its also it's realism.
Maybe it has something to do with the thought behind it.
Liam - what I am talking about in reguards to it's "BoP-made-over look" is that it shares LOTS of features with the BoP that - they've tried too hard to use that ship (which has never been officially Romulan) and give it a Romulan makeover. Stick greeblies and spikes coming out of it to make it look so tough and cool (sorry I can't do the Fan-Boi speak/type ) and then paint it a different green.
The 'gun area' The mid-aft bulge section The neck and head (give a touch of a 'beak')
Think of Romulan ships and you think Fat, Green and arrogant. Look at this ship - you'd think it's a reject from Voyager's "Drive".
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I must admit I don't really like this. Just doesn't look right, not sure why. I agree with Andrew completely (although I do like the Steamrunner).
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quote: What happened to the 24th century artistic/futuristic/lovely curved ships.
We're possibly looking at different ships here, but I'h having trouble seeing how a runabout is "curved" or "artistic". It looks bulky and workman-like to me (which is what it should look like, but still).
quote:Until the opening scene of Encounter at Farpoint, we had only seen 5 Federation ships... but we knew what a Federation starship should look like.
And if someone had shown us the Defiant after Encounter at Farpoint, people would have had a fit.
I'm not sure where the figure of "5 Romulan ships" has come from. By my count, there's been three. The original BOP, the D'Deridex, and the scout ship. The Klingon D7 cruiser hardly counts.
And out of those three ships, only one is a starship that the Romulans have used in the past 20 years. So really, we only have one ship to use as an example of how the Romulans build their starships.
quote:DS9 D'Deridex's weren't intentionally painted darker - it's the CGI problem. The CGI models are rendered with less resolution when they are moving (which would be EVERYTIME on a TV show)... it gives less clear pictures and caps (especially).
I'm not sure I agree. I think Jason is right, the darker colours were to better fit in with the mood of the series. Besides, they were darker in "The Die is Cast", and they weren't using CGI ships then.
quote:Realism people - that's what trek holds for me. I can picture walking the decks of the Enterprise, or making my way onto the bridge of a D'Deridex Warbird.
Really? It's always seemed like a terrible waste of space to me. I like the design, and it's probably an attempt by the Romulans to make a really big ship without having to fill it with stuff, but still, exactly what is in those massive wings?
It doesn't look especially BOP-ish to me anyway. It looks more like the D'Deridex with the bottom half taken off.
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: I'm not sure where the figure of "5 Romulan ships" has come from. By my count, there's been three. The original BOP, the D'Deridex, and the scout ship. The Klingon D7 cruiser hardly counts.
D'Deridex, BoP, Scout Ship, Science Ship and the Shuttle from DS9. I think the D-7 should count too, since they did use them.
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: It doesn't look especially BOP-ish to me anyway. It looks more like the D'Deridex with the bottom half taken off.
I can see similarities with the Klingon BoP. The overall shape, the way the nacelles are canted like the BoP disruptors, the feather pattern on the wings, and a few other minor things. But then this new Warbird reminds me of a few other ships too, especially the Jem'hadar battle cruiser.
The new wide wings look as though the lower half of D'deridex wings have been folded out.
And what's with the nacelles? Other than being too obviously Eavesish, it looks as though each wing has two nacelles - a long spikey one and a short stumpy one next to it.
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