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Mikey T
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Wait a second... I read in the DS9 Companion that the Galaxy Class they blew up in the Jem H'addar was one of the mock up ships blown up for either Cause and Effect or Contagion. It was definately larger than the AMT/Ertl models in 1/1400 scale.

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Brittain/Brattain thing shouldn't be a conundrum. Brattain was a scientist, The ship was a science vessel. The plaque read Brattain, the label behind the captain's chair said Brattain. The only guff was the model. I dismiss that as easy as the Yamato 1305-E fiasco.

The Bozeman from every pic I've seen was labelled 1941 allaround. Bad screen caps make it look as though there's an 8 on the bottom. Anybody got a screencap of the Bozeman's underside from DVD?

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quote:
Originally posted by SoundEffect:
Brittain/Brattain thing shouldn't be a conundrum. Brattain was a scientist, The ship was a science vessel. The plaque read Brattain, the label behind the captain's chair said Brattain. The only guff was the model. I dismiss that as easy as the Yamato 1305-E fiasco.

*points out that he lives on the Brittain Road*

[Smile]

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Even DVD caps are incapable of revealing whether the Bozeman had NCC-1941 on the saucer underside or not. I have no idea where this idea came from, but from the clearest caps it looks as much like a 9 as an 8 to me. The only thing that's for sure is that the nacelles and the top of the saucer (the latter having been seen clearly in the episode) were labeled NCC-1941.

-MMoM [Big Grin]

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Ack Registries!!!! I must move this thread before it is too late!!!!

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I don't know which version of "Cause and Effect" you're seeing, but I don't remember ever seeing the top of the saucer in the ep. We saw the bottom of the saucer and the nacelles fairly close in the repeated nacelle-collision shots, though. It's been a while since I saw the ep, but I seem to recall all the registries reading 1841 except for the one on top of the saucer (which we never saw), which Jein did as 1941 as an homage to a Spielberg movie he worked on. The only place I ever saw that registry clearly was in the Encyclopedia.

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Spike has gently corrected me. The Bozeman is now officially giving me fits.

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A while ago SoundEffect pointed out to me that NCC-1941 was visible during the episode and showed me a cap... I reexamined the scene when I did the DVD caps last month. It's visible, if only for a split second. Otherwise, it's still pretty hard to tell what the underside or nacelles say, and I'm hesitant to accept the Encyclopedia as proof since we know they've gone Photoshop crazy on pics before. I did some caps, but my harddrive crashed so I don't have them handy at the moment. Lemme see if they were stolen...
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Hey Nick! SoundEffect to the rescue. Here's a screen cap from the show:

USS Bozeman NCC-1941

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Cool! Our first canonical proof of a meteoroid strike inflicting damage on starship hull surface features, like paint jobs... [Wink]

Timo Saloniemi

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Somewhat more worryingly my school's blocking system comes up with an "Access denied: Occult/New Age" when I try and view that!!! Just what is going on with that ship?!?
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Your school blocks Occult/New Age?

Well that POTENTIALLY rules out going to anypages that deals with Harry Potter or Enya - how crazy is that. Letme guess you can probably go to a page that deals with "Fisting for hamsters" or something instead! [Smile]

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Lol; can't say I've tried the hamster site though... [Big Grin] .

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One more tidbit about the explosions, a quote by David Livingston:

"...What was tough was the post on the show and the second unit that went on to blow up the ship.
Rob Legato had Stage 10 and we built large scale mock-ups of the Enterprise and of the other ship, or at least the nacelle on the other ship and we kept blowing up stuff on Stage 8. getting these tremendous explosions which we can hopefully use in the future.
But Rob and Dick Brownfield were in heaven. They were like kids in a candy store. Nothing better than just being able to blow up something.
Everything there was newly created just for that episode. We had a bunch of Enterprises, they didn't have all the detail but they had enough that when you cut to them you believed them."

Taken from "Captain's Logs" - First Edition published in 1993 by Boxtree.
So the interview should have been from quite shortly after the episode was made.

Thoughts?

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