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Actually the Nova and defiant could have still been testbeds for new systems/technology long after the ships were considered viable and safe for general production. The Nova could have been updated like the Rhode Island after several ships were built in the original configuration (like Equinox). This would account for a higher registry if the ship was re-numbered after final upgrades were made. I believe the Defiant still had her "NX" even after we saw several other Defiant class ships in "A Call to Arms".
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we've all overlooked the fact that possibly Equinox falls into the same category as Constellation and Challenger, ships that have registries that predate their class prototype. doesnt bother me to leave it like that either, its less complicated than the last six pages or so.
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well, it sure beats the hell out of another Nemesis thread!
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If you're talking about the Galaxy-class Challenger from "Timeless", that was NCC-71099 -- that fits the bill by coming after NCC-70637.
As for the Prometheus: my personal theory is that since the Prometheus had such special capabilities it was classified, and for whatever reason Starfleet Intelligence decided to paint the hull with a fake registry number (and name the ship after an existing ship, the Nebula-class Prometheus) in order to try to confuse any enemy spies.
Don't all of the official Trek Tech articles include comments about deliberate misinformation these days?
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And for reference: Yamato - 71807 Odyssey - 71832 Venture - 71854
There isn't a problem with the registries here. The only problem is that we had previously thought we'd seen all of the original six Galaxies, and that the Enterprise was third. Given that neither supposition is cannonically true, there ain't nothing wrong.
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o right.. i'm sorry.. the Galaxy I was thinknig about was the U.S.S. Ronald D. Moore.. which is a stretch by any means of canon
but the fact remains, that the registry system doesnt always stick to itself chronologically,and if it did, well, we'd have no way to explain any mistakes we saw (except possibly by admitting that it was all made up for a TV show)
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For the Challenger.. I believe in the story that the TNG TM gives, Galaxy, Yamato, then Enterprise-D were the first three ships completed. Challenger was the first of the ships that were taken to near completion then stopped. Why the Challenger was delayed to this point really can't be answered.
I still don't believe in the 5**** number from the Prometheus.
I still don't think there is any evidence to suggest that the Nova is the Nova NX, or even a Nova Class ship.
As for the Yeager, do we really know if it was the Yeager from on screen evidence? There are times when we just have to drop one reference for another... whether that be the bash or the Sabre. I don't mind two ships with the same name... I do mind taking the Bash's NCC as canon-- I feel that most of those ships were unnamed and unregistered for the most part anything painted on their hull was by the crew [the name] or for confusion [the NCC of an older ship was painted on the hull so that the Cards and Doms scratched their heads for a moment when they tried to research it in their databanks].
You guys really seem to be reading too much into VFX mistakes or in-jokes. I wouldn't concern myself too much with the DS9 bashes, Challenger is easily explained with the available evidence, Prometheus is a VFX mistake... shall we get over it now
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quote:Originally posted by Dax: It's an incredible stretch but perhaps the Ronald D Moore was originally a Nebula that was upgraded/converted/refit to a Galaxy.
Or maybe it was just, as Hutzel said, created specifically for the calendar and is not canon...
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As I've said before, it's most likely that the Challenger was one of the original six that were built only to the spaceframe stage and stored elsewhere for later completion when they were needed (such as the Klingon and Dominion Wars or the Borg).
As for the Ronald D. Moore, if I were to add it to a shiplist as a real Starfleet ship I would say she began construction as a Nebula, but was halted in the spaceframe stage when Starfleet decided to convert her into a Galaxy class as one of the six unfinished ships. Construction resumed at around the same time when they started on NCC-71099 again. The other four ships were to follow... them being Magellan, Musashi, Sarek, and Sentinel. (And yes, I'm assuming those ships from my own opinions)
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does it make everyone's brain hurt too much to think the Challenger could have been built after the Galaxy, Yamato and Enterprise and then assigned an earlier number because registries aren't completely sequential!?!? Just wondering.
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