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Did the puppet move or did it's mouth/beak move/line move?
Also if they prefer such heat you can infer things about their homeworld... What was the temperature? Was it hot enough that liquid water couldn't exist on the surface of the planet?
Could they be silicon based or another element-based life forms? Nitrogen based?
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And I don't think the puppet demonstrated any articulated parts, but I could be wrong. I think I only ever saw the episode once.
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Ah, but, to get all crazy lingual, radioactive does not (at least, according to a free online dictionary, and I suppose information is worth what you pay for it) simply mean "radiating energy," but rather the specific kind of energy associated with atomic decay!
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quote: TSN Well, heat is radiation, technically...
Not quite, unless you mean infrared/thermal energy/radiation.
Quick definitions:
The astronomical definition of radiation is a form of energy transport consisting of electromagnetic waves traveling at the speed of light.
The biological definition of radiation, as well as conduction, and convection are all processes in which an object gains or loses heat, or in other words, the way heat travels from or through one object to another. So technically it isn't heat, its the tranportation of heat...
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Radiation is when an object gains heat through exposure to intense radiant energy or to any surface that is warmer than its own surface temperature.
Conduction is a direct transfer of heat between two objects in contact with each other.
Convection requires moving air or water to transfer heat, involving the process of conduction.
[NOTE - this has been heavily modified because this was getting too severely complicated to explain in a manner fitting to the above posts.]
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quote: AndrewR Did the puppet move or did it's mouth/beak move/line move? Also if they prefer such heat you can infer things about their homeworld... What was the temperature? Was it hot enough that liquid water couldn't exist on the surface of the planet?
The puppet moved very slightly...like from side to side, but barely noticable.
Also, I believe that it was stated that the Tholian ship in Enterprise has an internal temperature in excess or at least 200� but not in a specified heat measurement system (�F, �C, K).
If it was 200�C, which is 2x boiling, then water would not exist in liquid form on their homeworld (as it would be evaporated).
If it was 200�F or 93�C then it is possible that water exists on their homeworld, but extremely near to boiling (212�F = boiling).
If it was 200K (or -73�C or -100�F) then everything would be frozen, which does not seem to fit what we allready know about the Tholians.
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Almost certainly centigrade.
Hmm, I wonder what keeps tholian silk from not burning up/melting. This also suggests that in order for them to be in a "normal" human tolerable environment like the tholian ambassador visiting DS9, for example, they would need to wear some type of environmental suit, like the Breen.
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Almost certainly centigrade.
Hmm, I wonder what keeps tholian silk from not burning up/melting. This also suggests that in order for them to be in a "normal" human tolerable environment like the tholian ambassador visiting DS9, for example, they would need to wear some type of environmental suit, like the Breen.
I've always assumed tholian silk to be some sort of personal by-product!! and/or self-produced! Like Slurm.
I wonder what would happen to a Tholian on Breen or vice versa!?!
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"Not quite, unless you mean infrared/thermal energy/radiation."
Well, yes, that is what I mean.
"Ah, but, to get all crazy lingual, radioactive does not (at least, according to a free online dictionary, and I suppose information is worth what you pay for it) simply mean 'radiating energy,' but rather the specific kind of energy associated with atomic decay!"
Yeah, but he just said "rads", which refers to radiation. You're the one who said "radioactive".
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Almost certainly centigrade.
Hmm, I wonder what keeps tholian silk from not burning up/melting. This also suggests that in order for them to be in a "normal" human tolerable environment like the tholian ambassador visiting DS9, for example, they would need to wear some type of environmental suit, like the Breen.
Why? If Tholians are scilcon based, tempature extremes (or possibly hard vaccum) would not bother them until reaching near their body's material threshold. (either combusting or shattering) If Data and Lore (androids specifically constructed to mimic humans, but with scilicon brains) could easily survive and function in space, I would think a Tholian could handle the same.....at least on a temporary basis and the temperate climate of DS9 would be no big deal. Tholian ships hay be hot (not radioactive as I previously erred)to provide sustainance and crystal growth/regeneration. Or Tholians don't bother to shield their spacecraft interiors from the excess heat generated by their engines. Not much need of an A.C when you're a xzenephobic crystaline species prahaps.
...and I doubt Tholian silk is excreted from Tholians themselves. Particularly if they are crystaline/scilicon based. Pottery from Betazed may come from that planet, but likely does not come out of the Betazoids' themselves. (god willing) I'd imagine "Chinese Silk" is referred to as "Earth Silk" (how many merchants know all the continents and former countries on the various planets they buy merchandise from? Who'd have that kind of time?). Tholian Silk may be so revered for it's resistance to tempature extremes.
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