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Mark Nguyen
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Forgive me if it's been covered before, but I can't find it in the forum history. I just noticed something about a spacedock cap in another thread:

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Now granted, this isn't the original model as seen in the previous film, which was destroyed. But if it was built to the original plans...

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What, that white circled thing? I always figured there would be shuttlebays inside Spacedock, even if we didn't see them directly.

Or are you thinking of something else?

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Mark Nguyen
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Well, remember this old debate?

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OK I'm totally lost as to what you're on about, Mark. Being a relative newbie, I guess I missed out on that debate. In the second pic you post, it sorta looks to me as if the item directly below that one landing-pad lookin' thing is what I've heard of as being I.D. as a possible cargo ship. Is that what you're getting at? It's apparently not there in the ST:IV shot, right?
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Mark Nguyen
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That's basically it. For the longest time, people had been debating whether or not that ship was indeed a ship, or some structure on the side of the "pier". Fan analysis had essentially concluded that it was a ship, but that first picture is about as close to black-and-white proof that it isn't normally there.

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Whoa, nice work Mark. From comparing the two pictures, I'd say most of the details are there. Extrapolate that to the rest of the model, and I'd say the two models were built with the same plans.

What happened to the orignal model?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
That's basically it. For the longest time, people had been debating whether or not that ship was indeed a ship, or some structure on the side of the "pier". Fan analysis had essentially concluded that it was a ship, but that first picture is about as close to black-and-white proof that it isn't normally there.

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One could very easily put a major dent in the cargo ship theory by noting that it's possible that the core segment seen in 4 is not the same POV as the entry POV in 3.

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Mark Nguyen
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But given the Starfleet penchant for symmetrical and generally clean design aesthetic, the odds are not the best for that theory.

And I clain a prize for myself for pointint this out in the first place. Biiiiii-dah.

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I might add that according to the DVD text commentary, the Spacedock interior miniature wasn't rebuilt from scratch (which is what some people seam to think) but it was refurbished after being dismantled and put into storage.

Despite this I do agree that said structure was meant to be a ship of some sort, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was originally glued onto the dock and was snapped off in storage, hence it's absence in ST:IV.

As for the arrangement of the supposedly free floating ships in Spacedock at the end of TVH; Perhaps they were in a holding pattern waiting for clearance to either dock or depart.
Given the recent crisis I wouldn't be at all surprised if the dock had a bit of a backlog to clear.

For reference here is an analysis of the parking arrangement I made a while ago for the previous thread.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
But given the Starfleet penchant for symmetrical and generally clean design aesthetic, the odds are not the best for that theory.

And I clain a prize for myself for pointint this out in the first place. Biiiiii-dah.

Mark

Well nahh nahh - I first pointed out the cargo ship which was met with outbursts and objections [Smile]

I was going to point out about the lack of cargo ship in STIV but I knew I'd be shot down again! [Smile]

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Lee
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Where does that USS Intrepid label come from?

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Read this thread: Avenger/Miranda class Intrepid?
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Lee
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*does so* Ahh. . .

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At the risk of 'can-o-worm'ing, are we sure the first ship Kirk & Co's travel pod overflies is a Constitution? It's definitely not a Miranda, but if it were a Constitution, I'd expect to see the after end of the saucer in frame on the right side of the picture.

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