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I've kinda of wondered that, myself. Is it possible that it's got to do w/the angle? Maybe it's a Federation class refit dreadnought nacelle...?
Nah, then you'd definitely see the saucer in that pic.
*Sigh* Guess I need to pull that tape out and watch it again. You guys put me thru such torture here, makin' me think and forcing me to watch Trek movies....
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What else could it have been besides a Constitution? AFAIK, the only two models with that nacelle in existence at that time were the TMP E and the Reliant. If there had been a third film-quality movie-era miniature, surely we would have seen it somewhere by now. Hell, if they'd had another, never-before-seen design ready to go, why would they have re-used the Reliant model for the Saratoga?
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2) In Guardian's pic I see two ships and shuttle... right above the shuttle is one ship and in the bottom right is another... which one are you talking about?
3) In Spike's pic ship #2 from 2) is in the bottom left. What is the thing circled in white?
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Yep. The absence of the structure in TVH does not necessarily indicate a ship.
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quote:Originally posted by J: 2) In Guardian's pic I see two ships and shuttle... right above the shuttle is one ship and in the bottom right is another... which one are you talking about?
There are a total of four vehicles present. There's the Spacedock shuttle thingy, a Phase II study model (on the left), the Enterprise's ass, and the big hauler which was being discussed on the lower right.
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Ah... I recognize it, slightly, now... Ok... Thanks. Phase 2... yeah, that's it
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Well, consider this about the Connie Nacelle sitting in the travel pod fly-over...
They do get creative with mattes at times. They may have simply matted out the saucer in that scene since it would have obscured so much.
For instance...
Take the escape pod scene from First Contact. Watch the pods from the far side of Enterprise E... they book a** across the scene and leave the frame. As the camera pans around to look towards Earth.. some of those pods are no longer there. If they had been... that scene would have had too many pods in view, resulting in a very busy scene and obscuring alot of the Earth image beyond.
Basically its just creative licensing.
I seriously doubt that they spent a bunch of money by building another model, such as a dreadnaught, just for that tarvel pod scene.
I love to read the way you guys justify things. But sometimes you totally run past the most obvious answers in your efforts to do so.. heh
Keep it up though, I do love the creativity of this forum!
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quote:Originally posted by Guardian 2000: Incidentally, here's that freighter-thingy, as well as one of the Phase II models (thanks Bernd):
I'm sorry, but where the hell do you see a "freighter-thingy" amoung the black, the rear of the Enterprise and the blue lights??
quote:Originally posted by TheYoshinator: Watch the pods from the far side of Enterprise E... they book a** across the scene and leave the frame.
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