-While the phase cannons are back at their typical points, the torpedoes are not. At least once, the photonic clearly do not fire from the (new?) forward central tube. Reed mentions repairing the aft tubeS, but he could be referring to the standard ones.
-The war room now has chairs. On that note, will we stil have the conference room set available? Or will its function now be taken by this one? I don't mind - the conference room set is just the mess hall with monitors covering the food shelves on one side.
-Speaking of which, archer asks the computer to load the Xindi database. While this is not new (he orders the computer to stop and start recording his log in the series premiere), computer commands are very rare otherwise. Upgrade?
-Does Enterprise still have movie night? Everyone is so high strung these days... They need to watch a Jim Carrey movie or two.
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: I'm guessing the Ossarians sent a shuttle over to Enterprise to retreive their captured crewman: Enterprise does'nt have Voyager's endless shuttle supply.
Transporters, maybe...
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Oh. I thought they'd drop him off at the sphere.
quote: -Speaking of which, archer asks the computer to load the Xindi database. While this is not new (he orders the computer to stop and start recording his log in the series premiere), computer commands are very rare otherwise. Upgrade?
Reed even voice-commands the protein resequencer. I don't think they even used one voice-command in the early episodes. Guess they upgraded (read: forgot about it).
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Okay, looking at Bernd's NX-01 internal deck schematic, it seems I was mistaken, and there IS room to have a cargo bay directly aft of Engineering. I'd have to go look at screencaps to see about the orientation of the room (single door forward, or was it port or starboard?), but it seems that it could fit in there, deck-wise.
They mentioned that the door into the Xindi Death Star was made of Ossarian (dangit, I thought that was fun with a Y!) hull material -- I wonder if the Ossarians actually blasted a hole in the sphere themselves to check out the inside?
Given the Ossarian prisoner's attitude, I'm more surprised that the NX-01's casualty was the guy who got clubbed from behind in the armory, and not the one who got shot in Engineering. So the Ossarians have a stun setting, too?
Re: the MACO stun setting -- I don't recall seeing phase rifles on ENT before... each time the shipboard security had used rifles, I thought they were simply plasma rifles. I would've expected the MACOs to have the latest equipment, anyway.
On a philosophical level, what's wrong with big bad soldiers having the choice of restricting the force they dish out? Today's militaries always seek to find more options, to apply force in different ways. I think the stun setting is fine. It may not be as dramatically exciting to see the Big Bad Marines blow in and kill everything in sight, but it still makes plenty of sense.
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quote: each time the shipboard security had used rifles, I thought they were simply plasma rifles
Problem is, near the end of last season, those rifles suddenly had phase pistol VFX, instead of the plasma VFX.
What I found a bit strange about the Osaarian prisoner.. how did he know Archer's people were 'too civilized'. He's never met humans before, and didn't have a lot of contact with them on NX-01 either. So either he must have gotten that info from somewhere (or sometime?), or he is very perceptive.
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Well, we haven't seen that many peoples in the Expanse yet, but it could be that the whole area is only slightly above Kazon in civility. Last week, neither the Xindi council nor the mining guys gave the impression of being well to do overall, and future episodes seem to indicate lots of enlightened races ahead. If they make a point of saying that when they inevitably do, it'd be a pretty sweet observation.
As for the plasma rifles, we'd been going on the assumption that they couldn't be altered to stun - they were consistently lethal. However, the only REAL thing we know about the differences is in particle drift factor, as pointed out early in the season. I'm willing to accept that plasma rifles could be set to stun, albeit probably by concussive or thermal force rather than particle or neuro shock, or however phasers stun people.
Anyone think about how the stun grenades work? They seemed to go off with a poof rather than a bang, even though the targets were beaming out in the interm. They could still be similar to curent-day stun grenades, which emit light and sound to disorient the target rather than knock it out...
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Stun Grenades would be like today's "flashbang" stun grenades: extremely loud noise and blinding light cause a temporary sensory overload. We got those now.
As for archer sending over the Yossarian in a shuttle, I infered that by him telling the security guard to "escort him to the landing bay". Probably no transporter in there.
A question: does the hull plating shield against a transporter beam? If not, Enterprise is in serious doo-doo.
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Maybe the CC are wrong in this case? Wouldn't be the first "Catch-22" reference in Star Trek. Daneeka, McWatt, Moodus, Orr, and Snowden were mentioned in the DS9 episode "Paradise Lost".
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Yeah, but they clearly weren't pronouncing a Y, captioning or no. Or at least, not that I heard.
My problem with the MACO rifles having a stun setting is that it sort of removes the point of having phase pistols at all. They were supposed to be the best new thing. All we really know about them is that they fire in a beam and have two settings. I don't object to the idea of...and I just realized, MACO is a pretty silly name, but anyway, to them having lots of different force options. It just makes all that phase pistol talk in the beginning sound kind of silly. Stun and kill, so what?
Now, if only we could see someone carrying around a sawed off version of the "plasma" shotgun from "Broken Bow." (Note: Not really. Because that was kind of silly too.)
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quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: They mentioned that the door into the Xindi Death Star was made of Ossarian (dangit, I thought that was fun with a Y!) hull material -- I wonder if the Ossarians actually blasted a hole in the sphere themselves to check out the inside?
I'd have to agree with that simply because how easily Enterprise destroyed that lock. You'd think a civilization advanced enough to build that sphere would have a lock strong enough to stop a simple phase cannon blast, or hidden better...
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I agree: the lock and door was a new addition. Possicly there was just a rectangular opening there. All the habitat modules inside the sphere looked added on: definitely not part of the sphere's design.
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: My problem with the MACO rifles having a stun setting is that it sort of removes the point of having phase pistols at all. They were supposed to be the best new thing. All we really know about them is that they fire in a beam and have two settings. I don't object to the idea of... {..snip..} It just makes all that phase pistol talk in the beginning sound kind of silly. Stun and kill, so what?
Do you really think that Starfleet and whatever organization commands the MACOs would have stopped developing the phase pistol technology, or that the NX-01 was the only ship that would ever get the goods? If these Space Marines are going to be sent out on a mission that will Determine The Future Of Earth�, why wouldn't they get the best tech that Earth has available?
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Phase Pistols may simply be more advanced by their power useage or recharge rates.
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Except, dare I say it, this sort of goes back to Warren Ellis' criticism. Enterprise was supposed to have the best of the best already. If this was an example of technological improvement, then shouldn't the, alas, MACOs have "phase" rifles?
Don't get me wrong, this is just a minor atmospheric issue that has gotten on my nerves. But, like, couldn't they have phase pistol sidearms available if they needed to stun people? Seperating out the stun and kill functions to different weapons would be different and, in my opinion, neat. It would highlight the contrast between the specialized commandos and the generalized Enterprise crew.
But how about that crash into the sphere at the end, eh? Eh? Neato.
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Yes it was. They blew out the port nacelle, the ship lost control and careened towards the sphere, and regained control JUST in time to right itself and barely scrape the surface. Quite impressive, and compared to earlier Treks, extravagant.
Extravagant like the away mission to the dead ship. They took a LOT of time and resources to build an alien ship set (a corridor and half of the bridge), prosthetics for the dead aliens, and a lot of time and VFX to show them suiting up and going over to it, then walking around inside for three minutes, and back to debrief. Back in the day, you'd AT BEST have a supplemental log entry saying the gang went over, found a bunch of dead guys and downloaded some computer data, and then cut to everyone getting out of their EVA gear - done with the whole thing in a minute. Not that I didn't mind, and the sequence did add to the tension in this action-oriented episode, but IMO the time could have been better spent on some character development - espeically with Archer's off-the-wall antics.
And back to the plasma rifles... I guess you could say that the MACOs can stun folks, but the phase pistols simplified it by having ONLY two settings instead of multiple settings or a dial or something. Then the military caught up.
Oh, and no one noticed the suits used in "The Core", I see - seeing as they were barely visible in the foreground at all. I guess that means it's okay.
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