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I don't have a problem with an Oberth being commissioned in 2363... actually I should say recomissioned. But I do have a problem with thinking that the NCC number is from 2363, the original comissioning should go back at least two or three decades. As for why an Oberth would have been built as late as 2350's--- don't ask me, perhaps it was brought out of mothballs like many ships during the Dominion War... but in this case it was for the Cardassian War? [Not to fight you dimwits, but to fill in where other ships had been called to the front]
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quote:Originally posted by Peregrinus: Jeez, people. If you've seen that painting from Probert's site, you could at least have read the caption. He created it to be the Hood, for the shot in "Encounter at Farpoint" where the two ships rendezvous over Deneb IV. Then the producers decided they wanted to go with a model instead.
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That's right. I forgot it was on his site. I mostly think of it as the first gatefold in The Art of Star Trek, because he autographed my copy and corrected the caption.
I got an email from Andy today about that subject, and he sent me a drawing he'd done comparing all the Federation starships seen up to the point of Encounter at Farpoint, including his design for the Ambassador class, which he has at a length of 1,721 feet.
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quote:Originally posted by Peregrinus: Oo! Would you be willing to forward that drawing to me?
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Not without his permission...which I have asked for. But we'll see what he says.
He told me something else cool about his Ambassador design, but I'm not sure if I can spill the beans yet (hee hee).
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Ohhhh....is the drawing detailed enough for me to build a physical model of? That would rock....I'd even build one you could give to him!
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Ohhhh....is the drawing detailed enough for me to build a physical model of? That would rock....I'd even build one you could give to him!
No, the drawing Andy sent isn't very detailed. He said he did do a more detailed elevation of the Ambassador class that was used to make the model for the Observation Lounge, and must've been the basis for his painting.
This drawing, which I'm assuming is mid-1987 vintage lists the ship lengths as:
That was his understanding of the vessel sizes when TNG first started.
So, keping this on topic, is 395' about what the Oberth class is assumed to be, or has it upsized like the BOP?
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quote:That would be not only interesting, but very useful. We could even possibly use Sternbach's proposed design for the Pegasus... I think with the exception of the Vico, all the "Oberths" we saw in TNG were supposed to be some other ship -- the Tsiolkovski, the Biko, the Pegasus...
Yeah, I had forgotten about that...I believe the Biko was mentioned as being a freighter, although they used the good old Cochrane stock footage (and was listed in the 'pedia as Olympic class). Then there was an ep where Wesley returned to the Enterprise "by shuttle," yet again TPTB used the Oberth stock footage.
I think that even in "Realm of Fear" where we saw new footage of the Oberth Yosemite, it was supposed to be a "Yosemite class" ship, wasn't it? Or was that just for the Trieste?
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Hell, I don't know. I've lost track of when the ship mission display on the E-D's conference room screen went from being Merced-class to Yosemite-class -- or vice versa...
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Okuda told me he change the class of the Trieste on the display as a result of the Yosemite's appearance, in order to avoid confusion. I'll see if i can dig up the e-mail...
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