quote:Originally posted by Commander Dan: The Defiant in DS9 seemingly violates rule number 2, as does the S.S. Aurora seen in TOS: The Way to Eden.
If you fudge the details a bit and say the warp coils instead of the entire warp nacelle needs 50% line of sight then there's enough clearance underneath the Defiant for the warp coils to have 50% LOS. The nacelles are partially slung lower then the hull and the warp coils are at the bottom of the nacelle housings.
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i think the original design philosophy was that the nacelles acted as 'lightning rods' and that energy was supposed to be more intense (or even in an arc!) between them (the TOS 1701 had glowy-stuff exhaust grills facing inward towards each other, even if they werent lit as glowy parts most of the time), the 1701 refit continued this, the nacelles glowed towards the inside, originally storyboards were drafted to try and include arcs of energy FX between the nacelles as warp was engaged, to show the audience why that space was left empty of ship components.
if you wanted to honor the original philosophy, state that the space between UFP nacelle was where the warp field formed, radiating its waves of subspace distortion from the point on the arc between the two nacelles, then not that other engines have nacelles with blue glowy ports facing all different, but instead of being straight lines, the emissions are able to arc back on themselves, eliminating the necessity for nacelle line of sight (like the 1701-D's warp field comes from the middle part of the nacelles, each line of warp curves back in on itself to meet its duplicate from the other engine.
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Well, that's a great theory untill they started designing ship's shuttlebays directly between the nacelles: fully active or no, I wouldnt want to fly a shuttle between anything with "energy arcing between them".
Many ships have at least partial nacelle blockage and they all seem to work just fine so screw this supposed rule.
As to ships being magically made "canon" by being shown on a viewscreen, add in the Orion Blockade Runner (the only Orion ship ever really shown!), and the strange "Lotus Flower" freighter design (supposedly the Kobayashi Maru) both from FASA.
You include the FJ stuff, you get the FASA stuff too!
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OTOH, both the Orion ship and the Lotus Flower are rather pleasing aesthetically... Although the latter cannot be the Kobayashi Maru, since the dimensions (wrt the dimensions given on those ST2 viewscreen specs) are all wrong.
We could of course say that the FJ'ish things seen on TMP, ST2 and ST3 viewscreens are merely "symbolic" representations of actual ships or interiors, omitting fine detail and simplifying complex shapes. If the TMP pics actually are supposed to represent the refitted vessel, then a similar "conversion formula" could be applied on the ST2 images... But that still wouldn't be enough to make the Saladins two-nacelled or the Federations four-nacelled.
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We get the stuff from on screen... just because it was from FJ or FASA means nothing about the rest of their designs. At best you have the backstory for the ship/class/designs seen on screen... but not other ship/class/designs.
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Is nacelle blocking anything like cock blocking?
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yes.
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Mike, did you post that link to the fiery pits of hell again?
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