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As to the supposed "rules", Andy Probert told me that he was instructed to work with those on TNG and that's why his ships have paried warp engines and clear line of sight between the warp field grilles...even the Fegengi ship's concave underside is for that reason. Anyway, that's what he was told, but clearly the "rule" had been violated before and was violated numerous times since, so precedent pretty much discounts it, Roddenberry's wishes of the moment notwithstanding.
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Can you see the Ferengi Maurader's nacelles (or whatever you'd call them) from the front of the ship?
And I know that mentioning this is extremely patronising, but the whole reason the refit Enterprise-D had three nacelles in AGT was because they were playing "let's break all the rules!" Hence the cloak, warp 13, etc...
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Andy never told *me* of any supposed rule that you had to be able to see the nacelles from the front of the ship. The rules he told me were that the engines should have clear line of right of each other and that they should be paired. I'm not saying he might now have said the other elsewhere, but he never told me about that ruke.
I know the one thing he screwed up on the Ferengi ship was he forgot to put a nav deflector of it. Ooops!
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You also have to see the nacelles from the front (ie unobstructed, presumably for bussard operations) and the bridge has to be on the top (for some inane reason...)
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quote:Originally posted by MrNeutron: Andy never told *me* of any supposed rule that you had to be able to see the nacelles from the front of the ship.
Are you throwing a hissy fit?
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As if I've every thrown a hissy fit on this board. I'm the Demonstration Model for tact.
If you re-read my entire post, you'll see I was saying that while Andy never told me of any supposed rule about having to be able to see the nacelles from the front, that doesn't mean he might not have said as much elsewhere.
As to the nav deflector on the Ferengi ship: when he was telling me how the effects people always have the Warbird shooting from its nav deflector, I asked him where the deflector was on the Marauder. His reply, "I forgot it." Sure you can decide some feature is the deflector, but the designer admits he forgot to include one.
Now, the Warbird's lack of impulse engines...that's a different story.
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quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: I assumed the Warbirds impulse enginges had something to do with the 'under slung' 'claws' of the Warbird.
They were supposed to be two slots on the very back end of the ship. Andy never drew it because he ran out of time (he said he had about half the normal time to design this ship).
quote:Where was the Warbird supposed to fire disrupters from?
Here ya go...
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The sad part is, is the complete lack of variety in watching a Warbird fight...thoughout TNG, "Message in a Bottle" and DS9.
They are supposed to be some super huge fearsome juggarnaut but in almost everything weve seen its just one disruptor or torpedo from the nose of the ship as its only defense.
In contrast, think of the Galaxy/Galor scene in "Sacrifice of Angels" and the Galaxy spewing phasers from every which place.
Such a misuse of a beautiful thing.
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I understand how the paired Nacelles rule might have been made to spide FJ, but where do the other rules come from?
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: We also saw it fire disruprots from the inside center spar in the episode with the Iconian probes.
Again, I was saying where the weapons where originally intended to be located, not where the VFX people made them fire from.
If you're referring to Congation, I believe in that episode they also showed a torpedo tube lighting up where those cargo hatches are.
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