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The only think that makes me recognize that last ship as an Earth ship is the sensor dome on the bottom. Before I saw it (thanks to the ever so lovely caps), I assumed it was Andorian. Where the hell did that design come from?
As for the Steamrunner-looking ship (most notable top left) . . . could it possibly be an Intrepid? If not, couldn't we at least pretend? ;-)
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There are at least three Steamrunners that I could see. In the second picture, they're in the upper left, centre, and just to the right of the Enterprise bridge dome. I'm sure they figured that an ENT-ish ship in the far background would never be noticed. Shame, shame!
Ah well, at least we know that there're now at least two of the Intrepid's class (we're calling them NV-class, right?) now, and those same two Icelands again. Frankly, putting more of either in the background would have been just as effective. Hell, they should have put in some of the Horizon freighter front ends, that'd have made more sense.
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Maybe there really was no way to avoid it. I figure that establishing a Starfleet would also entail the establishing of an academy for the education and training for upcoming new officers.
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: I doubt that those are actually Steamrunners...but GOD DAMN it about the Academy! They had managed to avoid that gaffe so far.
I guess someone realized the Steamrunner class was the only one that didn't have a 22nd century lookalike yet...
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They do look really like Steamrunners, yes. Glad I'm not the only one to notice that. Or that there are at least two Icelands. OR that the ship above the Enterprise looked Andorian! 8)
Four MACOs seen. Three of them seen previously - the one standing behind Archer when he confronts Silik in the brig (and is also the one on the right when they're escorted to the Transporter) is new, I think. But I don't care, I'm not bloody doing that anymore. I can't, I won't, I shan't. Unless I get really bored one evening. . . No, dammit, not even then!
"-Hm.. When beaming down, Archer and the two MACOs appeared simultaneously. But beaming UP, Trip and Mayweather diappeared one a little after the other."
It's possible that this was intentional. Since that wasn't really Trip, his life-signs may have been slightly off, and the transporter may have taken a second longer to lock on to him. But I don't know whether it was purposely done as a sort of hint, or not.
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Well.. I had written down some stuff concerning the alternate history and the time-travels, but none of that ever happened, I won't bother
So.. the TCW is over. It was a pretty strange moment. We'll never learn who FutureGuy was, what the Tholians where doing, what that mysterious TARDIS ship was, and how the Klingons were involved.
We do know, however, that Vosk was perhaps the focal point of the entire war. His faction believes that time-travel is just another form of propulsion, and should be free to use (he'd be good friends with Krenim). The Nah'kul have tried to eliminate the Suliban from the timeline, but where stopped by Daniels (his faction has been consistently referred to as the "temporal agents").
Does anyone else feel like Season 3 was just a rather pointless detour? Was Daniels just waiting for them to finish, only to send them after Vosk? And does anyone remember how the Sphere Builders fit into all of this?
Anyway.. all this doesn't seem to really bother anymore, since we're now back into normal, linear time.
Which brings me to the fleet we see above.
I count at least three Intrepids, and two or three Icelands. I also think I see a Vahklas and one of those other small Vulcan ships.
I'm getting major 'Spaceflight Chronology' vibes from that dinky little boat that greets the NX-01. It looks almost like it has some sort of big atmospheric shuttle on it's back.
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I haven't seen the episode yet, only the screencaps, but are you sure those background ships are Steamrunners? I ask because I have a mesh pic of the underside of the Intrepid, and (even though it was fan-created) it does look like a Steamrunner when viewed at that angle.
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Well, here's what I think. Red = Intrepid, Yellow = Iceland, Blue = Steamrunner. The way the final shot was assembled, the ships stay in position relative to Enterprise, so you can see slightly diffferent views of each in the other screenshots (and as they turn around, though the Steamrunners don't).
For reference, here's the ol' Shiporama page on the Steamrunner, including various shots from similar angles. I believe that the silhouettes match.
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