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SoundEffect
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The Galaxy-class starship has 12 phaser banks, 17 transporter emitters, and 2 visible and one hidden torpedo launcher.

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The refit (Venture) adds two more phasers to the nacelles.
The AGT "dreadnaught" adds three phaser nacelles four more phasers to the nacelle pylons (on "fin" additions) and the (frankly idiotic) "guns" and giant torpedo launcher around the bridge.

[ November 02, 2004, 11:27 PM: Message edited by: Jason Abbadon ]

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Umm, this is DANGEROUSLY inaccurate. [Razz]

When in attached flight mode, a Galaxy sports eleven emitters: two long ones on the saucer, two short ones atop the secondary hull (but flush with the saucer), two on the pylons, two atop the stern, two below the stern, and one below the secondary hull. The twelvth unit atop the secondary hull is "hidden" just like the saucer torpedo launcher when in attached mode. However, the twelvth phaser is there in the model "for real", whereas the saucer torpedo launcher may not have been built into the model at all.

The Venture indeed adds two nacelletop strips. The three-naceller, however, was not seen firing anything from the new greeblings next to the bridge. Indeed, devices that look like gun barrels are seldom weapons in Starfleet designs. There were new phaser strips atop all three nacelles, and there was a big beam weapon below the saucer, but the new pylons for the lower nacelles only feature two additional phaser strips, not four. There are no strips in the middle pylon.

So there.

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I'd certainly love to believe those are some kind of sensors or something else as well but.....

I'd have sworn there was a phaser atop the center nacelle as well....

Tere is on my own version (though mine is not the Enterprise, so anything goes). [Big Grin]

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Yes, there is a strip atop the center nacelle - but no strips on the center *pylon*.

I'd rather have preferred the ship without the silly antennae next to the bridge. The rest of the ship was "angularized" with the ventral gun, the fin extensions and the straight-lined central pylon, plus the new impulse boxes. The by-the-bridge greeblings with their rounded bases are a move in a whole different direction, a "spiky-round" motif that is not to be found anywhere else on the ship.

Perhaps just covering the whole bridge with a new angular assembly would have worked best?

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This is great, with exception of the fact that I can visualize very little of what I am reading.

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quote:
Originally posted by Timo:
Perhaps just covering the whole bridge with a new angular assembly would have worked best?

Probably, but then we'd have suffered another redress of the battle-bridge or Enterprise-C set for the interior. [Wink]
I like most of the additions though....just not as part of a refit to an existing Galaxy: imagine gutting ten decks, two of three shuttlebays and eliminating ther saucer-seperation feature to install that massive new impulse engine block....
They could've at least blended it in a bit more with the saucer.
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This is great, with exception of the fact that I can visualize very little of what I am reading.
For you, my visually challenged pal.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/other/agt-top-jein.jpg
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/mechanics/agt-parts.jpg
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/mechanics/agt-enterprise1.jpg

When building a model of the AGT-style Galaxy, I decided to lose theGalaxy's goofy-looking (to me) "neck" and I like the result- a sleeker looking ship:
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1301771&uid=657989
I went with a thicker (almost Nebula-like) third nacelle pylon though (complete wuth decks windows and a docking ports).

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As visually challenged as I may be, I was really speaking of the original GC, not the retaaded GC version 3.0

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Sigh.....fine.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/galaxy1.htm

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I just noticed something. If you look at the dorsal scematic, on the forward part of the neck, right behind the saucer, there is something not right. The starboard phaser array is missing and the port is ill-defined. It is completely missing, even the markings that are at the end of every other array.
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Fact Files made that pic, they sucked at pretty much everything - I don't think they had a single set of schematics that didn't need fixing somehow, just compare their Niagara views with the actual model. [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by Talos:
I just noticed something. If you look at the dorsal scematic, on the forward part of the neck, right behind the saucer, there is something not right. The starboard phaser array is missing and the port is ill-defined. It is completely missing, even the markings that are at the end of every other array.

...aaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnndddddddddddd, they didn't make Shuttlebay 3 bigger than 2. They have two small doors, just a portside 'flipped' for starboard as well, (and they still messed up on the neck phaser!)

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So, we're agreed?
Fact Files sucked hard.
Worse still was the STTM reprints of those images with the new (totally senseless) descriptons.
They list the Perigrine fighter as 65 meters long for example...snicker

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quote:
Originally posted by Futurama Guy:
... not the retaaded GC version 3.0

Irony!

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It's still a retarded design, regardless of his lack of a spellchecker. It reminds me of all the stupid fanboyish crap you find on shipschematics.net.

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