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Elim Garak
Plain and simple
Member # 14

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Frank, if that's the case, why would the most tactically superior vessel be in command in a chaotic situation?

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Aethelwer
Frank G
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I'm talking about an organised fleet, not a "chaotic situation."

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Aethelwer
Frank G
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Bryce: Hey! You edited the message! You said STII before.

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Elim Garak
Plain and simple
Member # 14

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That Edit Message function is a sneaky one.

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bryce
Anointed Class of 2003
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You still wouldn't lead a colonization caravan from an Oberth. The Mirandas are more advanced than them and they were killed during the Dominion War.

On Every Trek game they are the most defenseless!

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Elim Garak
Plain and simple
Member # 14

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I agree with Bryce. These are utterly defenseless science ships we're talking about (evidence: Star Trek III, plus they're never used in major battles). Why couldn't the "bad guys" not just sneak up behind the lines and destroy your organised battle by blowing up your Oberth with a couple torpedoes? It's too risky. You're risking losing some of your best people, for no reason. You might as well not even go with light-years of the battle to coordinate it.

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Michael Dracon
aka: NightWing or Altair
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I hate to say this, but there were Oberths present at 2 battles against the Borg, at least 1 at Wolf 359 and at least 2 at Sector 001 (First Contact).

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Elim Garak
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Oh, yes. I never noticed the First COntact ones, but I distinctly remember the Oberth in "Emissary" not even getting a chance to open fire, let alone be productive, before a single hit destroyed it. Why they sent them (besides as capital punishment) is beyond me.

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Aethelwer
Frank G
Member # 36

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Oberths have probably been upgraded over the years, of course.

The Oberth in "Emissary" was not destroyed, just damaged.

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Elim Garak
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Crippled is more like it. And it was destroyed (just not in that one shot), unless it was the lone survivor of the battle, as stated in "The Drumhead". That would be laughable.

Enough about Oberths! Regulation 191, Article 14...

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Aethelwer
Frank G
Member # 36

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It didn't seemed crippled at the time.

Actually, I hereby declare that the USS Bonestell was the lone survivor of Wolf 359, despite what the encyclopedia might say. So there. :P

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Michael Dracon
aka: NightWing or Altair
Member # 4

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Alright then, how about this: Why does a fleetadmiral be on an Excelsior/Nebula class, when there is a Galaxy class present?

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Elim Garak
Plain and simple
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Altair: What are you referring to? The "Descent" Borg Incursion prep fleet with Alynna Nechayev in command? She was on an Excelsior...

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Michael Dracon
aka: NightWing or Altair
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Most admirals use Excelsiors, and I included the Nebula because of Wolf 359.

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The_Tom
recently silent
Member # 38

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*mutters something about the bad rap Oberths get being excessive*

The Grissom didn't have its fricking shields up! Lay off the little guys!

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