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Michael Dracon
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Starfleet regulation 191, article 14:
"In a combat situation involving more than one ship, command falls to the vessel with tactical superiority."
(from the Voyager episode "Equinox")

This raises some questions:

1. Does this mean that the Defiant is tactically superior to almost (don't know about the Prometheus or Intrepid class) all other Starfleet vessels??

2. And what happens when there are more than one ship of the same 'tactically superior' class??

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Elim Garak
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It wouldn't necessarilt be just the class. Remember, the Equinox was badly damaged and therefore not by any means "tactically superior" to Voyager; if it had been Voyager damaged, Ransom would probably have had command.

I'm under the impression that this regulation is only valid in the case where a ship hadn't previously been selected to head a mission or for its captain to make a tactical decision.

For example, the Defiant was already chosen to lead the fleets when it did. Voyager (in "Equinox") was not...

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Federation Shipmaster
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2. It would probably go to the captain with more command experience or whoever has held the rank longer.

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I agree w/ Elim. It certainly only applies to combat that hasn't been previously planned out.

As far as what happens if two ships are tactically equal, I don't know. Alphabetical order? :-)

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Dan
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Poker works for me. Also, what totally defines tactical superority? If it's firepower than most of the bigger ships win by torpedo payload alone. And if it is, then I believe a Defiant has tactical superority over an Intrepid if Worf's 45 quantum torpedo statement holds water.

You know, I use to like these boards when you could actually look at the thread while you type without opening new windows.....

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Elim Garak
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Perhaps it is alphabetical order, but I would think command experience would be the next thing on the list.

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Dan
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There's even more reason now to get an Akira or an Ambassador now.

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Sol System
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You know, there has to be more to this regulation. Otherwise, you could have a situation wherein Red Squad onboard their Defiant gets to take control of the fleet, just because Picard is on an Oberth or something.

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Hey Sol,

If your idea ever came true, I think they would transport the two crews to the other ship.

There is no way Picard (or anyone) would lead a battle from an Oberth.

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Your right, there's no way Picard would command a fleet while onboard an Oberth! Maybe onboard a Galaxy or Intrepid Class, but why since he is in command of the Enterprise-E!

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Which could go a long way toward explaining why, when the E-E turned up at the battle of Sector 001, no-one quibbled when Picard took command. No "but you shouldn't even be here - you're disobeying orders!" but instead "heck, we've been shot to sh*t and his vessel kicks righteous ass, sounds like a plan!" 8)
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Elim Garak
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Lee's got a good point with the First Contact thing... Is it possible one Brannon Braga was attempting to correct something in Trek's past? There's a horriffic thought!

Perhaps there's a "unless command experience is significantly greater" clause?

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Aethelwer
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Actually, leading a battle from an Oberth is a pretty good idea. The ship could stay a distance from the fighting, dedicated exclusively to commanding the fleet.

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Elim Garak
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But, Frank, you'd be safer in a runabout!

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Well, not really.

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