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Bringin back an old topic


Are both warbird sizes stronger than the Galaxy or the larger type A class.


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There are Two types of Warbirds the D'Deredix and the D'Kasanak both are larger then the galaxy but the d'derdix is the smaller one of the two and the D'K is about twice the size of the Galaxy .

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And the D'deridex has (at least) 2 sub types, -A and -B. Which are probably not of the same size.

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you haven't answered my question. Is the smaller Warbird type stronger than a Galaxy?
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I don't think that the Type-A is the D'K..... from The Romulan Prize - cause there was only one type and it had just been built - and this was AFTER The Neutral Zone and the Neutral Zone Warbird is about 1200m where as the book Warbird was about 2000m... I just think its either a one off or definately in that book alternate universe... not a bad book though...

I think That the E-D could take out a Type-B warbird - but they warbird from Tin Man did reduce the E-D's shields by 75% - although it was a suprise attack.

The Warbird in "The Face of the Enemy" - the one that Troi was on - they were "scared" of the E-D since it was a Galaxy class ship... maybe this was a Type C - reduced to menial cargo runs?

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I dought that The Romulan Prize was in an Alternate Reality , wasent it an Episode? im not sure

Well in my Opinion The Galaxy can destroy any class of warbird well except for the D'K or that Type A because of its size and Tactical Superiouity but if the Captain is experianced and concidering it is a fair fight I guess anything is possible , but fair fights with Romulans are few and far between :-)

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It would stand to reason that "Type A" and "Type B" are Starfleet names for Romulan ships, used because the real Romulan names at first were unknown. It would also seem logical that Type A would be the first type observed - and unless told otherwise, we'd have to assume that this was the ship in TNG "The Neutral Zone". A later, apparently smaller type would be dubbed Type B and later given the proper Romulan name D'Eridex.

It is of course possible that Romulan ships were spotted even before "TNZ", or that agents gave partial information on them. But why wasn't Picard told more of this? Or, if he *was* told in that secret conference at the beginning of the episode, why didn't he tell his crew more?

It is also possible that Type A was in fact an earlier Romulan design, perhaps the one that maimed Enterprise-C at Narendra III. Starfleet might not have gotten much info out of that, since the E-C was destroyed - thus the claim that there was no info on Romulans between the Tomed Incident and "TNZ" could still be true. But the Klingons might have given some sort of description of the Romulan ships, enough to justify a tentative designation of "Type A Warbird"...

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I support the idea that the Type A Warbird is from Narendra III ("Yesterday's Enterprise") and is the forerunner to the Warbird of today. Of course the Type A was completely different in appearance to what we now know as a Warbird.

All the Warbirds from "TNZ" and onwards are the Type B D'deridex-class. We can simply thank the VFX people for apparent variations in its size.

It's nice to see that the first thread I ever created is still alive and well.

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We get into tricky territory here, Dax - basically even if the effects guys stuffed it up - what we saw was what we got - Two distinctly different sizes of Romulan Warbirds - the huge-ass WB from TNZ and the smaller - more common Warbird from "Contagion", "Tin Man", "Face of the Enemy" and "The Pegasus" to name a few.

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Interestingly, the ships that have the worst scaling problems (Warbird, BoP, Defiant) all come equipped with a cloak. It would only be prudent to equip cloaking devices with a "cat in a corner" feature that increases or decreases the apparent size of the vessel as desired. The Romulans would certainly have used the feature in their first-ever encounter with the E-D, dropping it later when the Feds knew better and could no longer be fooled. Klingon BoPs would also most certainly use it in "The Defector", the episode with the largest BoPs to date, to intimidate the opponents.
And whenever the E-D met Gowron or Duras or K'Mpec in space, the size of their ships actually depended on the size of their ego...

And the Defiant might suffer from size discrepancies simply because the crew doesn't know how to use the Romulan cloak. Nog: "Sir, I've always wondered... what is this knob at the side of the cloaking device, with these strange x0.5, x1, x2, x5 and x10 markings?"
"It's the, er, crossnumerificator. Just turn it like this and these little lights change to a more pleasing pattern. And it sounds different, too." "But what does it DO, Sir?"

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It is of course possible that Romulan ships were spotted even before "TNZ",

Does no-one remember "Angel One"? The Enterprise is ordered to the Neutral Zone in response to Starfleet's detection of Romulan warship movements on the opposite side of the Zone ...

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Jeff, he was talking about Romulan Battlecruisers. That could mean anything....=)

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Woah! This thread is nearly 2 years old!

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Jeff likes living in the past.

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Timo:
The "Cat-in-the-Corner" technical theory is brilliant!
Naturally, if the cloak can bend light, this would be a relatively simple addition.

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