OK, if we provide the ship with a 560ft length, the highlighted bit is about 9.5m long. The bridge set is roughly 9m long and fits rather nicely enclosed in this location.
Could this be the origin of the infamous 560ft length?
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Surely they didn't just pull the figure from out of the air. I would like to give them more credit than that.
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The theory is just as good as any other. What they all probably have in common is the "quick-estimate" syndrome.
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Is it just me or is the highlighted said bridge in that pic misproportioned? (If so, wouldn't that make a difference...?)
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I just didn't think the bridge set was so much of a rounded triangle...
Since the set itself is now dismantled, the only way one could find out is to get one's hands on a copy of the Defiant bridge set blueprints... Hey, that would be nice...
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FWIW, the above diagram and the DS9TM one don't match up.
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Go figure...now I'd like the same people who said the Defiant was 170m to tell me why the hell the Aeorwing shuttle on Voyager was never seen fully or used at all in the Voyager TM.
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Uhh... the Voyager TM isn't out yet so we can't really tell that the Aerowing won't be in it.
And besides, canonically, there is not necessarily an Aerowing Shuttle, yet there is a Defiant length, so why would comparing messing up one and not using the other be significant? *is a tad confused*
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There are 4 things that make me think 560ft is feasible for the Defiant -
1. The existance of the relatively small escape pods. 12 pods to cater for 50 crew. Now, these pods would be too small at 120m, yet nicely sized at 170m
2. The shuttlebay. The bay door and shuttle itself are horribly small at 120m, 170m works here.
3. A 170m Defiant compares well to a 110m BoPrey (going by visual evidence). Of course, this comparison relies on the BoP size.
4. Comparisons with the DS9 station. Again, this depends on the station scale.
Yes, I realize that 120m has often been used, I'm just making the point that the larger size still has significance.
As for the AeroWing, what else would that pattern on the bottom of Voy's saucer represent? The vessel probably exists but just hasn't been used. Hopefully the Tech Manual will cover it.
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I reckon that the aerowing shuttle was originally going to be Chakotay's ship - which docked there... but the story got changed after the Voyager design had been finalised. There are SOME similarities between the aerowing shuttle and Chakotay's ship.
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I doubt it, somehow. Why would a Starship be designed to dock with a Maquis ship? What would have been at the Voy's saucer bottom until they encountered the Maquis? You're describing a paradox, AndrewR.
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Dax: I'm still puzzling over the size of that shuttle. Need to see more of the interior to make an accurate guess. DS9 is *something* of a problem since the Defiant has to fit structurally in that dock. Escape pods: does anyone have screencaps of these launching?
As for the AeroShuttle (it's no longer AeroWing since the producers forgot to copyright the name before someone used in a Duffy Duck show) - the theory is intriguing since Chakotay's ship reuses the runabout cockpit, and the AeroShuttle is supposed to be a runabout with wings. Still, I'm not sure that the crew would have modified the underside to allow the ship to dock...
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