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Elim Garak
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Oh well, the finale wasn't about the biggest and best battle ever, anyway.

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Bernd
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1) I think "Jenolan" is the only choice. The hull marking wasn't readable anyway, unlike the wrong or questionable numbers of the Defiant, Prometheus and Br[a,i]ttain.

2) The information about the whaling ship is interesting. This would make the BoP much larger than 100m, as opposed to all other scenes in this movie. It is obvious that the Romulan reference must have been fropped in the course of the model construction. This is exactly what the BoP looks like. I wonder what stage the gray raw model in The Art of Star Trek (?) represents.

4) The authors didn't use this figure from the very beginning. There must have been 140 Starfleet + 20 Maquis or 130 Starfleet + 30 Maquis.

5) This speeds sounds very sensible. Fast enough in order not to spend all eternity to cross only the core of the Federation (comprised of planets which must be at least 100 LY across), and slow enough to restrict the area of operation.

6) Warp 9.975 is noticeably faster than any other ship. While I don't deny that it could be possible, could it be someone accidentally inserted another digit and it should read 9.75?

Boris: What do you remember about the kitbashes? Freedom/Firebrand, Niagara/Princeton, Rigel/Tolstoy, Challenger/Buran, Excelsior study, ST II study?

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Elim Garak
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Definitely 9.975. They've said it at least two or three times in the latter fifth and the beginning of the sixth seasons.

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Jim Phelps
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Bernd: sorry, haven't read the part about the kitbashes at all. Will try to do so next time.

Now, as far as Voyager's crew complement is concerned: they started out with 141, and were up to 152 or 154 by the time of "37's". I always kinda assumed that several people died during Caretaker's initial shove, and this Maquis figure would place the number at about 11-13.

Boris

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Omega
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*looks at picture*

Ah...

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Bernd
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There were 140 crew members mentioned in "The 37's", in subsequent episodes it was always something in between 140 and 150, although a couple of ensigns were killed. In "Timeless" it is stated that there are 150, without Harry and Chakotay, and in "Dark Frontier" the Borg detect less than 150 again.
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Jim Phelps
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Actually, I'm pretty sure that it was 150-something in "37's", not 140. Anyone have the episode to check?

Boris

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The First One
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155, I believe. In "Dark Frontier" the Borg detect 143 on board. . .
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Gaseous Anomaly
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Well, at least that's the Jenolan question settled at last.
SWDAO Case Closed.

Now, something different.
Upon watching 'Emmisary' the other day, I was wondering what were the names of the


  • The Excelsior that gets it's hull blown off - I've heard 'Melbourne' mentioned.
  • The Nebula that flies in formation with the
  • The Ambassador. I'm certain it's not a Galaxy.
  • The ship that blows up outside Sisko's quaters.
  • The ship that's seen to the top right of the Saratoga as it bites the dirt.

AAAAA, as per.

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Aethelwer
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The name was almost certainly intended to be Jenolan, but the model still said Jenolin.

As for the Emissary ships, the first is the Melbourne, the second is the Bellerephon, the third is the Yamaguchi, and the fourth is the Oberth-class Bonestell. The fifth was probably meant to be the wrecked saucer of the Melbourne, according to "The Making of Deep Space Nine."

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Dax
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Can't we just accept that the model spelling was a mistake in a similar way that the Prometheus rego was bungled?

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Aethelwer
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No, because that which is shown on-screen is canon, just like the Prometheus's registry.

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Jim Phelps
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Actually, Jenolan was also shown onscreen on the Okudagram. I checked it out, the capital A is unmistakeable.

Boris

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Aethelwer
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Of course, the computer could be wrong. Oh well.

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Gaseous Anomaly
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Cheers, Frank.
Doymond geeza. Now I'm happy.

*Wonders what in the hell an Oberth-class ship was doing going up against the Borg:

"Look Captain, there's a cloud of dark matter half-a-parsec the far side of Wolf 359."
"Well then Ensign, in order to investigate it to the standard that we ourselves have set for tedious number-crunching ,we'll jolly well have to go straight through where our boys'll be giving the Boche, I mean the Borg, one in the eye! Tally-ho!"
*

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Ah, screw the whole lot o' ya!"
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