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Bernd
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...exactly what I think too. Careful ship design (and even kitbashing can be done carefully) is much like real engineering. The design has to be functional in the real world and has to look functional as a model.
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Aban Rune
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Regarding the Yeager, I think it was a rather clumsy patch too. However, I suppose it's possible that the saucer was scaled down to the Raider size, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Of course, the real explanation for the creation of these ships is that the SFX crew needed some new ships so they canabalized some AMT models and put these new ships together. In the Trek world, the various parts aren't scaled correctly, but (low and behold) the AMT fit together just like they do for the Shelley Class, the Centaur type and the Yeager Class.

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Since somebody mentioned the Yeager, here's something I noticed: Take a look at the aft section of the Yeager diagram in the DS9TM. Now take a look a diagram of the Maquis Raider. You may notice that the DS9TM diagram is missing the small engines.

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I wouldn't include the Centaur among a list of bad kitbashes, personally.

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If we are talking about kitbashed ship how about the different styles of starbase we have seen, ie ST I, to ST II, and then to the DS9 style of Fed starbase that is based all on ST I base.
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I consider the starbase kitbashes to be pretty good, much like the countless Miranda modification. They only add or remove a few parts and it would be consistant with Starfleet's use of the same hull type. However, if they suddenly decided to take the Spacedock's upper saucer and patched it up with the Regula's lower cylinders, it would really be dreadful. As long as they reuse parts from the same class or add completely new ones, it almost always makes god kitbashes (Nebula, Miranda, New Orleans, Cheyenne). When they mix disparate pieces, we get monsters (Centaur, which is the best "bad" kitbash, Shelley, Yeager and the thankfully unseen Medusa and the 2 others from the DS9TM.

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Aban Rune
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I agree with Sol System that the Centaur was a good kitbash by the creators. Like the non-canon Akyazi Class, it is similar to the styles of the time it was created, but is different enough to be it's own unique design.

The Shelley would be my second fav of these new ships since I think the changes to the Excelsior Class can be explained. The Yeager was just sort of a bad idea.

And Socko, don't believe anything you see in the DS9TM. You'll only hurt yourself. I think it's been kind of decided by alot of people that that ships section was a mistake :-(

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Aban Rune
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By the way TerraZ, what is the Medusa Class and where was this seen/ mentioned? I've never heard of it before. I do love finding out about new ships though.

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AndrewR
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No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space...

oops sorry major Star Trek: IV flashback.

The Medusa I think is a nickname for that crazy kitbash from the DS9 Tech Manual that has two excelsior saucer halfs joined together and three nacelles.

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Aban Rune
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Oooooh, eeeeck. blaaaggg!!!!

*gurgles*

*turns to stone*

*plots to go home and destroy the ships section of his DS9TM*

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