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Boris: Well, long story, but basically, he agreed to give me the address, but then decided he was Jaegar's close personal friend, and thus didn't.
Adam: Er...right. I'll fix that.
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Jim Phelps
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Here goes. Note the Steamrunner spelling (although I may have influenced him by spelling the ship that way in my question). As for the Defiant, he probably means that (at least in FC) the ship is supposed to be much smaller than the 170m Sabre, and not the same size or larger.
No idea what he means by existing saucers, perhaps trying to match saucer sizes with those of existing Starfleet designs? Jaeger did say in the Magazine that the Akira saucer was the same size as the Sovereign saucer, and taking a brief look at Vorlon's top view charts, the Steamrunnner, Norway, and Akira saucers do seem to be about the same length. Jaeger probably drew up -some- kind of a comparison chart without adding specific numbers, and thus he knows that the Saber is bigger than the Defiant, but not the actual sizes.
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:47:54 -0800 From: alx To: Boris Skrbic Subject: Re: FC ship sizes
Greetings: Thank you for comments about the FC ships. In regards to your query about the sizes of them please refer to the size chart from the Star Trek Encyclopedia "A Reference Guide to the Future" updated and expanded edition, ISBN: 0-671-53607-9 pages 578 and 579. You'll see that the Akira, Norway, Steamrunner and Saber-class sizes in comparison to ships of known size. Although personally my intentions were that the Saber would be larger than the Defiant-class. These charts are accurate for the most part visually, but I never really had hard numbers for the sizes while designing them due to time constraints. I mainly based the sizes on existing ships by the size of the "saucer" sections. Me hope and intentions are that Paramount will be contacting me soon to publish more information on these ships in the "Star Trek Magazine". So for the time being I'm unfortunately bond by confidentiality contracts not to reveal any further information about the actual workings, structure and or details of their specific operations (STFSC: 004-331 sec:002). I hope this little tidbit of info helps you, sorry I can't reveal more at this time, but in the mean time check out Galaxy Quest this Christmas! See some more of my handy work as the N.S.E.A. Protector NTE-3120 battles across the universe with the help of it's fans!!!! And Happy Thanksgiving!
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Jim Phelps
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Well, sometimes you're just lucky. I tried visually matching the saucer areas (roughly), and the Steamrunner comes out as slightly shorter than the Akira, while the Norway is slightly longer than the Steamrunner, as expected. Of course, these results may vary.
I'm only not sure whether the Saber is supposed to be bigger than we all thought, because it's the only ship that doesn't look right after saucer matching. Remember, Stipes had it at 190 meters, which seemed right to us, but the Akira and Steamrunner were both downscaled (262 and 243 meters). What if the Saber is supposed to be bigger?
Boris
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The First One
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No doubt he'll be inundated with questions now, so I won't bother him. But I REALLY want to know where the name Steamrunner comes from. . .
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Jim Phelps
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Don't worry, Boris thinks of a question before you know you are going to ask it I didn't want to let go of the lucky strain, so I questioned him about the Steam/Streamrunner issue before I left to watch that awful Voyager episode. But I suppose he's out for Thanksgiving by now.
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:33:50 -0800 From: alx To: Boris Skrbic Subject: Re: FC ship sizes
Originally it WAS STReamrunner, named after a song on a CD of my favorite band, Fold Zandura, they are a little known but excelent alternative Christian band and good Star Trek fans as well. I also named another ship that did not appear in the film the Zandura-class, a protype science ship (like the Grissom) with separation capabilities for atmospheric flight conditions.
Anyway the "r" in the name"STReamrunner" got lost in the muddled communication to paramount and it ended up getting approved as "Steamrunner" which has it's own sort'of coolness in a Hightech named low tech kind'a way. Anyway I'm out'a here,
Later Alex
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Well, that is very very interesting. The mystery solved.
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I think it is the US version of spelling it - hope they don't call a ship the color/colour or harbor/harbour...
Steamrunner is better than Streamrunner - as Bart Simpson says all the best bands are affiliated with Satan
so I guess were going to wait in anticipation for those Star Trek magazines eh?
is the new one out yet - someone said that there were some great scans of Starbases... anyone care to scan some of the piccies?
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Hmmm... Steamrunner sounds kinda low-tech/hi-tech at the same time... like something out of Bruce Sterling and William Gibson's "The Difference Engine":
Captain: "Engineering, we need more processing power. All hands to the Babbage Engines!"
Engineer: "I'm givin' her all we've got, Sir! If I push any harder, the whole thing'll blow!"
First Officer: "Damn it, Captain - I told you we needed more men to stoke the boilers!"
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Just another wee question - which I'm sure wouldn't interfere with his contract - did anyone bother to invite him here to lurk... at least. Anyone give him the URL?
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I for one would love to see people who worked on Trek invited to the forums... that way they can share ideas with us, sort out SWDAOs... I wonder - can anyone set up a chat site?
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Well they probably wouldn't want to participate - probably against their contracts - although Mike O and Rick S do potter around the net...
I wouldn't mind some lurking by them, like Jaeger for instance - then he might get some ideas or he might see some stumbling block and might realise its not in his contract not to talk about some particular point - and share it with us
------------------ Ralph: Um, Miss Hoover? There's a dog in the vent. Hoover: Ralph, remember the time you said Snagglepuss was outside? Ralph: He was going to the bathroom.
I didn't want to let go of the lucky strain, so I questioned him about the Steam/Streamrunner issue before I left to watch that awful Voyager episode. But I suppose he's out for Thanksgiving by now.
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