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A couple of days ago I downloaded a 3d-viewer, capable of viewing almost any file-format used in 3d-rendering and design. I (of course) started seeking out ships and renderings, and after a while I stumbled upon the Constellation-class and decided to give it a shot despite my opinion of it, and really re-woke my feelings about it.
One thing that really took me by surprise was the armament. I don't know the exact specifications on the constellation's weapons-grid (so much non-canon garbage floating around), but on this particular 3d-model I found TWO separate torpedo-launcher's, placed in the "joints" of the nacelle-pairs.
Now, I know Picard didn't speek highly of said class in his ship-discussion with Capt. Montgomery Scott (he just missed it), and the general specification of it seems to be "crappy scout/science-ship". I still feel though, that if one of it's kind could have survived to 2375 and be refitted with newer engines, shields, software, weapons-upgrades etc. etc. it could still be one hell of a ship!
Thoughts??? (Both personal and professional)
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I wouldn't be surprised if Starfleet recommissioned the remaining Constellation Classes during the Dominion War. If the Miranda Classes could survive over 100 years, the Constellation Classes could be returned to service. But it sounds like the ship you downloaded had a few unauthourized upgrades...
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I got the mesh from Sci-Fi Art. In the discovery zone, under the Akira-mesh, is a lightwave version of the constellation. I also have a picture from old Wolfpak-359 where you can see a launcher between the lower nacelle-pair.
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I agree the Constellation does look very good , i have the Wolfpak pic and those torpedo Tubes are in a nice position , if those are also copied on top naccle pylon this thing can be a real strong puppy . I found another pic of the Constellation by Glenn Crouch i havent seen it around the net so i thought you guys might enjoy it .
If you look closely the Torpedo Tubes are also there , I'm gona look much deeper at the screen caps and see if i can make it out on the model.
Oh hey Nimrod whats the name of that Viewer Program ?, i've been looking for somthing like that for a while.
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I always thought the two launchers were on the bottom joints of the lower nacelle pair and not the top joints.
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*wonders why a ship should have to be armed to the teeth before it's even worth considering as a good ship* Personally, I think the Constellation is one of the better designs, whether it has torpedo launchers at every junction or not.
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Hmmm thats a nice CGI image - so many so called 'good 3d artists' out there always make their ships look fake by having it really bright - since that is the difference I feel between the models and the CGI - cgi can't do the 'light' thing very well - it looks too fake...
especially in the windows and the nacelles - just somethings I wish CGI artists would address... anyway - nice pic.
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It's a really great browser that can show any file format, even Quake3-models!
My advice is, go to www.swma.net (Star Wars Modelling Alliance) they have some good sh*t there, man, they could fix you up, man... And for Star Trek: http://trekmeshes.starfleet.ch/
Does anyone have any other links that are good??
Maybe now this thread belongs in "Design, Artwork and Creativity"???
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The ship does look damn good!! I do agree with Michael that the Constellation Classes could have been brought back into service, the ones that are still in one piece.
Imagine the USS Constellation with photon/quantum torpedoes, Type-9 phasers, some abblative armor, upgraded computer and power systems!
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Ec, ec, exactly!!! Don't forget a new warp-core too! It would've been nice to see it fly abreast with the Defiant in SoA, firing torpedo-pair's from both launchers and swaying from side-to-side to evade flak! Even if the script demanded Defiant getting through alone, it would've gone out in a blaze of glory!!! Plus, there's more parts in a Constellation, making for a very detailed death-scene. (What am I saying?)
About the torp-launchers, I found the pictures of the studio-model, with favourable angles of it! I have the pics here, can some samaritan soul spare 128 Kb of diskspace?
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I think I can confirm that there are four torp launchers , and i think i see a phaser strip on the top side of the Saucer , this could indicate that this class might have been upgraded before seeing as phaser strips were intoduced around the time of the Ambassador.
I agree this class could have kicked some dommie booty , those four torp launchers would have been a sight to behold.
Sure ,Send them over Nimrod , Im doing a write up on the class for my website anyway , may i use them ?
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Absolutely, just happy to be of service. I'll include the four studio-pics and a nice big side-view.
I was thinking of also sending some images of the 3d-model I found on Sci-Fi Art, but seeing as I don't have the complete list of copyright-references to go I think it's best if you go there and get the model yourself! Isn't that the order of things, Fabrux? Or does it suffice with just saying "from sci-fi art"?
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Yeah, I think "From Scifi-Art" will suffice..
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