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Oh, yeah, a Mediterranean instead of an Istanbul. A big mother of a transport, in any case.
Perhaps it would be appropriate to list EVERYTHING there is in the DS9 episode guide in the way of Okudagrams, maps, ship lists, interesting crew factoids, menus for Replimat, cargo manifests, springball tournament results and the like. Just a catalogue of what one can expect to find there. The MIA/KIA list was a pleasant surprise.
Does anyone else have a scanner and the Companion????
Just for the info: Most of the sketches are never used equipments(the cloaking device from " once more unto..."), stage designs (the AR-5** planet), the Ds9 upgrades (from "way of the warrior") and a lot of other fun stuff (posters from the 70s in Past Tense and Covers of the SciFi-Mags from "far beyond the stars").
BTW, the book is worth buying!!!!!
(Now, Pocket Books where can i get my bribery money?)
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In "We'll Always Have Paris", the USS Lalo NCC-43837, a Mediterranean Class starship, is idenitified as a freighter. "The Best of Both Worlds, Part 1" has the USS Lalo NCC-43837 transporting cargo from one system to another.
So, the list from the episode "In the Pale Moonlight, has cruisers, freighters, scouts, and transports being attacked in the war and losing casualities.
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Here's something interesting... Only one person on the Akagi is listed as killed. All the others are missing. And, since the list starts w/ 'k', we might assume there are more on a previous "page" of the list. So, is it possible that the Akagi itself went missing? We don't know how big the Rigel class is. Perhaps all the MIAs are, in fact, the entire crew. That one KIA could have been one that was radioed in during the last status report, right before the ship was lost...
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I can understand if someone is misplaced on an away mission, but how does someone go missing in action from a starship in space? Maybe the hull was breached and they got blown into space without being tracked down, there was a large explosion and some bodies were completely destroyed without a trace, or maybe Dominion troops boarded the ships and carried some people away? Maybe they went AWOL?
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They could've been part of a ground occupation force as well.
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I think the list is obviously not meant to be the full list. Remember, Okudagrams are changable, therefore the list could be "scroll"able
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The columns extending all the way down could certainly be scrollable. The ones atop the page, like the Clement, Cochrane and Exeter ones, don't seem readily scrollable, though. And we didn't see any scrolling action take place when the DS9 crew was going through the lists...
How would the difference between KIA and MIA be determined in space combat anyhow? A body that has gone missing in the vacuum of space must be presumed dead, unless there is reason to suspect a boarding action, transporter capture, or Borg assimilation (although the latter should warrant a new AIA or "Assimilated In Action" designation!). But as long as there are enemy ships in the general area, a transporter capture is always a possibility. So perhaps everybody is MIA unless a body (or a vital chunk of it) is found.
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Perhaps MIAs on a starship could be accounted for as crew members that were on a shuttle that disappeared or an away team that was captured behind the lines.
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MIA could be crew who ejected in escape pods, yet have not been found yet. After so much time they'll probably give them up for dead.
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What does "RN" stand for before the name Ann T. Flood of the USS Repulse on the Companion casualty list? Registered nurse? It also appears on some others...
The Exeter appeared to be a command or courier ship, with a Admiral Richard B. Barnett onboard who was missing in action.
Also, a MIA is left hanging on the end of the Tripoli's readout.
And strangely enough they seem to have twins on other ships. (I know this is because of simply copying names in production and the screen was never intended to be seen, but what are Treknical solutions for these things?)
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Registered Nurse sounds reasonable (and it appears next to "Dr" Terry Erdmann in many places). Then again, the ranks and ratings of these people should probably be ignored just like we have to ignore the fact that the names are recycled for multiple ships - the balance is not plausible.
I know we usually see only commissioned officers in the episodes, but there are way too many high-rankers listed missing, against perhaps half a dozen enlisteds (or people without a rank mentioned) and a relatively low count of ensign vs. lieutenant. It's cute to have everybody be an admiral in the dedication plaques, but to make everybody a lieutenant or higher in a KIA roster is just silly.
Perhaps we could again use the criterium often beneficial in "semi-canon" debates - only include the data that can be gleaned from the actual episode, assuming super-powerful futuristic viewing devices but the original videotape/film. The names and registries of the starships could be readable, and one could tell the KIAs from the MIAs and WIAs by the color, but the names and ranks of the personnel would be mostly invisible, because of camera angles and resolution of original material, and because of people standing in front of most of them in close-ups.
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