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Hmmm...change Merced over the Yosemite class or not? Anyone want to e-mail Okuda and ask him about this (Okuda is a helluva man to put up with all these questions )
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Aha! Just realized I had this! I have a shot of the ACTUAL Okudagram of the Starship Status Screen. Unfortunatly, the picture is very small, and the Okudagram doesn't take up the entire picture, so it's even smaller. Barely ledgable, but it doesn't mean it isn't useful! As you can see in the picture, I drew a red box around the entry for USS Trieste. In green I have a box going from the class name of the USS Trieste to those of the USS Merrimac and USS Monitor, both Nebula class. Now, notice the width of the word NEBULA on there and the class name for the Trieste. Same width, right? Now look at the picture of the Starship Status Screen that Capt Sharpe posted. The width of the word YOSEMITE is much wider then NEBULA. Therefore, since even though it is not readable, the class for the USS Trieste appears to only be 6 letters long, and cannot be Yosemite class!
Therefore, the picture in the magazine must have been one of Okuda's pre-production ideas for the Okudagram before he actually made it, and it was changed from Yosemite to Merced then. And this screen is canon (is was from the Mission Ops area at the back of the bridge of the E-D), the class us canon!
Score 1 for The359...
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And it looks like the Zhukov just might say "62", though it's really hard to tell. It just seems like the first digit is more "solid" than the second.
And it looks like we have a "K.E. Tsiopkovskiy" on our hands, too. Now, granted, I don't really read Cyrillic, but there is a difference between 'l' and 'p', and I'm fairly certain that what they have there would actually be a 'p'. Anyway, even if we write that off as a typo, we still have "K.E." instead of "USS", and the fact that the name actually ends in "iy". Since the name on the outside of the ship was never seen, should we use this spelling instead? And I assume "K.E." are Tsiolkovskiy's initials (the 'K' is, anyway). Does this make the ship actually the USS K.E. Tsiolkovskiy, or should "K.E." be presumed to be some sort of alternative to "USS"?
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Weren't there some ships from the pre-Federation ship list in "Up The Long Ladder" that started with K.E.? Maybe K.E. is the Russian equvilant of HMS or USS...
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THE359 What episode is the okudagram in? I agree with you that the class of the U.S.S. Trieste is Merced Class.
Also, if this okudagram can be seen, then the registry of the U.S.S. Zhukov is canonically NCC-62136. (Love to have a DVD of this unnamed episode. Imagine the clarity.)
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Shik: Ah... Thanks. That is a 'z'. I should have looked over the entire alphabet before picking the 'e' that kinda almost looks like the 'z'... :-)
So... The KZ Tsiolkovskiy... Hm...
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There is no episode listed for the Okudagram. If you want to see it better, it's in the official 30th Anniversary magazine that Paramount put out.
As for the Zhukov, I've tried as hard as I could by looking at it to see if it's 26 or 62, but it's just too hard to read. Remember, there is a large version of this ship list in the E-D's observation lounge in nearly every episode. If we can get a screenshot of that it would probably have better clues.
This reminds me of the ship list in Star Trek VI. It had nearly the same amount of ships (plus classes attached to it). Too bad we don't have close-ups of that one.
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What type of filing system is Mr. Okuda referring to?
Now the ship list in the sixth movie. I have heard claims that the list is readable or not readable. Another claim-the list presents no class information. What are the facts, if any?
Furthermore, a question. If Mr. Okuda used the Concordance which had the list of ships from the sixth movie and Mr. Okuda knew that fans would buy the book, why didn't he include the ships in the encyclopedias?
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