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Fabrux
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I believe Frank may be thinking of a fleet command center...

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Or for comms jamming, or for scanning the enemy ships, or even for combat, depending on the weapons configuration.

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Michael Dracon
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Ah, yes. I can see it happen very clearly:

"We've engaged the Borg!"

2 seconds later:

"We've lost the comm ship!"

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Fabrux
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It's not like any ship other than an Enterprise or Voyager would last any much longer. It all depends on shielding. A newer Oberth probably has very powerful shielding.

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The Oberth Class scout is not a warship nor was the ship ever designed for war.

Unlike the other starships of the 23rd century, this class has no weapon turrets nor photon torpodoe locations. And her shields are very weak. In both instances where an Oberth Class ship were destroyed, the ships were destroyed by a single shot with shields raised.

Though we are led to believe that Starfleet doesn't sacrifice life needlessly, there are instances where life is sacrificed needlessly. In "Emissary", the Vulcan captain takes a ship with families aboard into battle against the Borg. In "First Contact", the Steamrunners were destroyed repeatedly. I counted at least 7 of these ships destroyed.

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"Unlike the other starships of the 23rd century, this class has no weapon turrets nor photon torpodoe locations."

Can you prove this, though?

"And her shields are very weak. In both instances where an Oberth Class ship were destroyed, the ships were destroyed by a single shot with shields raised."

How do you know this? The Bonestell could have been hit before we saw it, and the Grissom didn't seem to have time to even raise its shields.

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It seems the Grissom had time to "stand by" for evasive action, and there were rather lengthy cuts into the Klingon bridge in the middle of the action. I have no doubt Esteban *could* have raised shields in the time allotted. That isn't proof he did raise them, but do we really want to think that every non-main-character officer in Starfleet is an idiot?

I rather like the idea of an Oberth playing a major role in covert ops. Of course, she could be just a decoy (or indeed a flying bomb, although I doubt Starfleet really wanted to do anything as noisy as that). But it could also be that a properly tuned Oberth is the lowest-signature ship available to Starfleet. Or then SFI or some sort of Starfleet commando force likes to use these innocent-looking ships as the specially equipped motherships for their cloaking powered-armor infiltration units.

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Lee
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No torpodoes? Next you'll be saying it doesn't have any condondrums either. . .

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How and when did the Bonestell go down?

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Lee
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Of all the ways you had to put it. . . what is this sudden obsession with things going down everywhere?

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The Bonestell was destroyed at Wolf 359.

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I have no doubt Esteban *could* have raised shields in the time allotted.

I don't think so. The time between arrival of the BoP and destruction of the Grissom was too short for establishing a commcontact with Starfleet Command to get permission for raising shilds.

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Here's a thought: Maybe the Grissom was a specialty vessel. Powerful sensors and analyzing equipment in sacrifice of shielding and weaponry. Maybe Starfleet figured that no one would try to get to Genesis, and didn't think an armed vessel would be needed.

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quote:
Unlike the other starships of the 23rd century, this class has no weapon turrets nor photon torpodoe locations.

I've said this many times, and it has been proven many times as well. But I'll say it again, just for all you newbies: There was an Oberth class ship which fired a phaser in the movie 'First Contact'.

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quote:
There was an Oberth class ship which fired a phaser in the movie 'First Contact'.

, but AFAIK there are no phasers on the Oberth-studiomodel.

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