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Reverend, even at 2 AUs the inside interior of a Dyson sphere has enough suface area for MILLIONS of planets!! Its the second largest object ever seen in visual fiction period.
BTW, based on the size of the E-D, the spacedock model used for the starbases was at least 3 miles tall. Its correspondingly larger than the spacedock used n STIII.
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I feel that I should point this out: The shot of the Enterprise-D approaching Starbase in 11001001 was contructed using SFX elements from STIII. Didnt ya notice that the planet was a familiar blue/green, and that there was a moon floating in the background? Hmm?
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V'Ger was 82 AU long, what was it's diameter?
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V'ger was in total 82 AUs big. It was roundish, so it was 82 AUs long as well.
But this is about the whole thing, including the force field. The ship itself was only 1000 kilometers long (or 100 kilometers, I don't remember exactly, but it was said by Kirk).
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The structure of V'ger was a lot larger than the Enterprise, but certainly not the full 82 AU of the surrounding field. At this size it would have swallowed the whole solar system. I wonder anyway how the whole thing could dissolve without harming Earth. Just imagine E=mc^2.
The Dyson sphere is probably be much larger than anything else in the galaxy. It would have consumed 12,000 Earth-sized planets to be built if its shell was 100m thick.
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warbird5: The DS9 type 'starbase' are originally Cardassian mining facility, without any good defences to speak of. The Federation upgraded DS9 twice, and with the second upgrade it had a lot of firepower. Unfortunately we have never seen any weapons active on any other starbases. I personally think the mushroom type Spacedocks have more firepower, since they are a _lot_ bigger.
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Is there a size comparison chart of various starbases....Spacedock, DS9, Regula 1,...or other large stationary objects like maybe that...space drill thing. What was it? Quantum fountain? What was it's name? Oh and the subspace relay...and some of the orbital drydocks. I think that would be a cool diagram to have in addition to all the ship diagrams.
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Regarding the size of V'ger...the screenplay for TMP lists its length at 87 kilometers. Looking at Syd Mead's plans for V'ger, that would make it about 12.7 km wide (34 km wide across the "power vanes" that contain all the electrical effects).
The book Star Trek Phase II incorrectly identifies Mead's V'ger designs as early concepts, when they are, in fact, the final shape of the entity.
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Whoops, just saw some other messages here regarding V'ger that are incorrect.
Cloud size: Epsilon 9 reports the powerfield as "Over 82 A.U.s in diameter," which is 82+ times the distance from the Earth to the Sun, or over 7 billion 626 million miles.
V'ger itself: It's size is never directly given in the final film, although it's idenfied as 87 km long in at least one draft of the shooting script.
Uhura: It could hold a crew of tens of thousands. McCoy: Or a crew of a thousand ten miles tall.
Well, they were both wrong. At 87 km long and over 12 km wide, it could hold millions of human sized creatures, or about a dozen ten mile tall beings hunched over.
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One other V'ger thing I missed...somone mentioned other dialogue concerning flying over it. Which goes...
Kirk: Bring us into a parallel course. Over the alien at 500 meters. Sulu: 500 *meters*? Kirk: Then take us out to 100 kilometers distance adjusting parallel course.
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