Shik
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I AM wondering, though, why the Rigel one has Asian characters in it? And I think it would be "Miyamoto." But I'm not the Japanese speaker here.
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I don't know Japanese star names, but the first two kanji are can be read "Genji" or Minamoto family/clan. The "Tale of Genji" is regarded as the world's first novel, written more than a thousand years ago, about playboy known as the "shining prince" and heir to the Genji clan, or the Minamoto family. The third kanji is that for star or planet. The type face is a bit thin. I'll see if I can find you somtthing a bit fatter and more stylish. Also, I can see, very faintly, an Arab name behind it.
For Sequoia, I think the ship is a bit weak looking, especially compared with ships on your more recent patches. Also, the tree doesn't make such an interesting central image. Maybe some Cherokee script or a picture of Sequoya himself?
The Surak patch looks unbalanced since you have a color pic of Surak on one side and a very low contrast dark blue IDIC symbol on the other.
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There seams to be some confusion on just how Sequoia/Sequoyah is spelt I have done another version, this time with the man's own handwriting.
If someone who knows better than me (or knows someone who knows) it'd be handy to know which if any of these are correct.
Andrew: like it or not the ship, the swoop and the tree are pre-requsites of the chap who came up with the ship's design so it's something I have to work around. Plus adding stars would only clutter the patch.
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I don't read or write Cherokee, but I think that signature is shoe-horned in there pretty tightly. Maybe have the script thicker and put in the center of the swoop? I just noticed there were other trees lurking in the background; they don't really add much except clutter, I think.
Rev, do you want some Kanji for the Rigel emblem?
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Hey Reverend, any chance you can make the Nova Class Development Logo? I just bought the Starcrafts model and I wanted to use a logo instead of the resin Starfleet Arrowhead.
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I did a bit of digging and found that Rigel is sometimes called Genji boshi in Japanese (as your emblem says) and is taken to represent the Minamoto (Genji) clan (whose color was white), who fought a war about 1000 years ago against the Taira (Heike) clan (whose color was red), represented by the reddish Betelgeuse (Heike boshi).
quote: I don't read or write Cherokee, but I think that signature is shoe-horned in there pretty tightly. Maybe have the script thicker and put in the center of the swoop? I just noticed there were other trees lurking in the background; they don't really add much except clutter, I think.
It's not exactly his signature, it's just something I assembled form a scan of his original hand written alphabet so it doesn't look very natural. I think I'll go with the typed font instead, but set into the background and in a more subdued colour.
The background trees are something that I added to give the patch a sense of depth or forced perspective, you may have noticed that those "swoops" don't have the same impact it they don't have anything to curve behind. However I am thinking about subduing their colours even more and doing away with the gradients.
quote: Rev, do you want some Kanji for the Rigel emblem?
What did I get wrong?
quote: Hey Reverend, any chance you can make the Nova Class Development Logo? I just bought the Starcrafts model and I wanted to use a logo instead of the resin Starfleet Arrowhead.
As I told Griffworks if you want a custom patch then it won't be for free. However if you're patient then I may get around to doing something for the Nova sometime in the next few years, but I have to say it's not exactly high on my agenda.
quote: I did a bit of digging and found that Rigel is sometimes called Genji boshi in Japanese (as your emblem says) and is taken to represent the Minamoto (Genji) clan (whose color was white), who fought a war about 1000 years ago against the Taira (Heike) clan (whose color was red), represented by the reddish Betelgeuse (Heike boshi).
I'm pretty sure that I checked over this with Masaki last year and I'm pretty sure he OKed it. So are you conforming that it's correct or is there still something that doesn't make sense?
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I think it's starting to look a little better now.
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