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Masao
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So AMT got the lisence back?

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Reverend
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quote:
Originally posted by Griffworks:
[Eek!] Wow!

Nice work. I'd have never known that wasn't a real pic of a real model!

Coming from an actual model builder, that's a real complement!

Has know one spotted where the Yacht's name is from yet? I have a shinny penny for the clever lad that can.

Oh and for those of you not possessing super-human vision, this is what that silver panal inside the airlock looks like.

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Shik
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How can you name something after a nonexistent science officer? And his name was Thelen, by the by.

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Reverend
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He's not non-existant, he just got beaten out of a job by Spock.

And thats how the TAS site I visited spelt it.

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Shik
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Bjo has it at Thelen. So.

And seriously...an Adnorian XO? How many times over would the ship have been blown up? Would he have gone carousing with Kirkistan?

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hrm.. Asherman's Compendium, and every website i find has Thelin.. the tiebreaker I guess would be Alan Dean Foster.. anyone care to check the Star Trek Logs?
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Reverend nice decal for the Airlock Safety procedures. I have noticed that in step 1 the word indicated is spelled incated.

Although it looks pretty, I would change the color scheme at the top the decal from blue to red. I would put in a big exclamation point surrounded by a triangle and replace the word WARNING with DANGER. The whole purpose of the message is to prevent someone from accidently opening the outer door into a non 21% oxygen 15 psi atmosphere and dying of hypoxia or lack of amospheric pressure because they had no life support equipment on. It should be very clear that if you ignore the sign, you could be killed or screwed up for life.

Add something like "Hypoxia and Decompression Hazard. Possible vacuum, low oxygen content, poisonous, or hazardous atmosphere ahead."

Remove the numbers because these are not steps in a procedure, only steps should have numbers. Replace numbers with bullet points.

"If red warning lights are on, personnnel MUST wear pressurized suit with life support system to exit this vessel."

Looking at the operator's manual for my Drager Dolphin Mixed Gas rebreather, the manual contains big exclamation marks with explanations with the words "Failure to follow this warning WILL result in serious personal injury or death."

New line ---

"DO NOT OPEN outer door without the permission of the Environmental Systems Engineer or EVA Operations Supervisor."

"Emergency Escape. To bypass air lock safety protocols, state "Code One Emergency!" and then follow the emergency escape procedure posted inside the "Emergency Controls" box. ALWAYS attempt to exit through the interior before using exterior hatch."

The new arrivals message does not make sense in an airlock warning and procedure decal. Personally I would remove it and make it is own decal.

"DANGER! DO NOT BYPASS NORMAL SYSTEM CYCLING"

"Verify that all tool pouches, tricorder packs, and external hoses are attached SECURELY to suit using approved fasteners before attempting exit. Failure to do so could result in damage to the environmental suit or adjacent vessels."

"DO NOT bypass or ignore test, caution, or warning lights. Doing so could result in serious personal injury or death. ONLY attempt to exit when the the "Disembark" bar flashes."

"IMPORTANT! You may experience severe and disorienting gravity changes when leaving the vessel's artificial gravity field. DO NOT bypass the required adjustment period in chamber."

"ALWAYS verify the "Hatch Sealed" test lights before using manual override apparatus. ALWAYS constantly monitor the pressurisation gauges located inside the "Emergency Controls" box as you proceed to verify pressurisation levels."

"DAMAGE CONTROL & REPAIR

In case of damage or mechanical failure, emergency covers will slide out manually from sides to seal hatches and pressurisation ducts. Emergency repairs can be performed using the tool kit located beneath the "Emergency Controls" box."

New decal ---

"WARNING! YOU ARE ENTERING A SECURED AREA

AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY! New arrivals must undergo a security scan from ship's security to obtain a necessary security pass before embarkation.

USE OF DEADLY FORCE AUTHORISED! Obey ALL orders given to you by ship's security personnel. DO NOT ignore or violate security check points or enter secure areas without prior authorisation. Failure to do so WILL result in serious personal injury or death."

I think that you need a bigger decal, or perhaps several decals stating this required information. I would make the danger more apparent in the warning decal because serious injury or death may occur if the air lock operator failed to follow the content of the warning message.

By the way, I would recommend American English spelling instead of UK English spelling in the decals. Starfleet uses American English spellings and style.

Hope my commments help Reverend. [Big Grin]

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And add "the red line is for loading and unloading only. There is no stopping on the white line" [Big Grin]
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And then add to that:

"Use of deadly force authorized. Failure to comply will result in serious personal injury or death."

[Big Grin]

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If you go to page 446 in the Encyclopaedia (3rd Edition) you'll see where I got the text from.
I just updated the sign to look more like the ST:VI signs.

It's not like anyone is going to be able to read it, I just thought you folks would enjoy a bit of trivia.

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By the way, I would recommend American English spelling instead of UK English spelling in the decals. Starfleet uses American English spellings and style.
You'd better check the temperature in hell first.

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hrm.. Asherman's Compendium, and every website i find has Thelin.. the tiebreaker I guess would be Alan Dean Foster.. anyone care to check the Star Trek Logs?
I thought D.C. Fontana wrote "Yesteryear"?
Anyway, I like Thelin better, it sounds closer to how it was actually pronounced. Either way there is always room for interpretation when trying to spell alien words into a terrestrial language.

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OK so Cochrane Fleet Yards uses UK English spelling and style.

I see the sign on page 446. Obviously the person who wrote the text of the sign has no training or experience in technical writing. Numbers should only be used in step-by-step procudures, this isn't one. So they should have three seperate paragraphs.

I was thinking that the signage of the captain's yacht needed more language of the type on the signs in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. Remember the "Danger EM Radiation Hazard" on the doors of the transporter room?

I got the "Secured Area. Use of Deadly Force Authorized" from a sign taped onto a fence made of yellow hazard tape that was constructed around an F-117 fighter on static display at an air show at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island. Had a rather gruff-looking Air Force guard with a nasty shotgun guarding the airplane. I thought what's the point of showing it to the public if you are too paranoid to let anyone get near the airplane to see it. It isn't like "Aviation Week" hadn't already photographed every square inch of the airplane and knew what material it was construced of.

The rest of my suggestions came from my Technical Writing eduction and my years of experience writing hardware replacement manuals. The people who I worked for were always paranoid that someone was going to sue them if we didn't spell out to the installer. For example, that you needed to inplug the system and turn it off before opening the case of the PC. We don't want anyone to get a nasty electric shock or have jewelry, like chains, dangle inside the power supply.

I thought that this detail was overkill until I met one of the company's authorized dealer technician/installers. A monkey with a screw driver would have been much smarter than this person. Every step had to be written in agonizing detail for this person to understand.

So I thought that I would recommend similar signage on the airlock because if it was used improperly all occupants inside the vessel could be killed and the vessel could be damaged.

But since it will be small on the model and not seen, the language of the warning decal is unimportant. [Big Grin]

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Plus I'd wager that Starfleet don't put untrained morons in charge of potentially lethal equipment.
I'm sure everyone passing through that airlock wearing a gold and silver delta are well aware of standard airlock protocols, a sign like this is probably just an abbreviated reminder and mainly for the benefit of any civilians who might be aboard.
Indeed in an emergency a detailed list of idiot proof instructions is the last thing you need, by the time you've read as far as "...ensure that all baggage has been cleared through security and any licensed tribbles have been sterilized" your eyeballs have frozen over and your skin is starting to turn a deep purple.

Now that I think about it, the only instance in Sci-fi where I've seen someone actually read one of these instruction panels is in Alien when Ripley is starting the destruct sequence.

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Point taken. [Big Grin]

As always, I've made suggestions in an attempt to help make designs better, not be obnoxious. Whether I succeeded or not is open to debate at this point. [Big Grin]

I always liked the signage in "Star Trek VI" and thought it would be interesting if more starships had those warning labels. It always reminded me of tractors or heavy machinary and made it seem more realistic.

But I agree that you have to assume that Starfleet has trained its officers and NCOs properly or they wouldn't be aboard starships to begin with. It would be much too hazardous otherwise.

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So, should I be writing the name 'Thelin' on the side of the ship in a florid, slanty handwriting script or what?

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Nah, I don't think it needs it.
The Enterprise-E yacht only had it's name displayed on the plaque.

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