Based somewhat on Monkey's work, and likewise inspired by Greg Jein's model, this would be one of the United Earth vessels taking on the Kzinti during the four Kzinti attacks on Earth and allied colonies in the early years of the 22nd century (I do not necessarily maintain continuity with regards to Star Trek Enterprise).
The nacelle and living module still need to be designed, as these black things are obviously just dummies. And the engineering hull needs some more detailing.
posted October 10, 2003 12:38 AM
That's some very nice work! I look forward to seeing the living module detailed.
Monkey's story ideas aside, this design could easily fit into continuity in the late 21st century. It could even be one of the theorised pre-war ships (like the Valiant & Conestoga) that were fitted with warp dive after first contact.
posted October 10, 2003 04:40 AM
Nacelles are always tricky things to design, especially early ones. What I like to do is have a 'parts bin' from which I can mix and match the components I like, then go back and refine the detailing and make it look a little more unique.
For example, most of these share allot of common components.
posted October 10, 2003 06:57 AM
Wow, that's pretty impressive work there, Harry! I can see some commonality with both the SS Valiant and the DY series there...
It certainly looks a fair sight better than some other sketches I've seen for pre-ENT stuff!
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posted October 10, 2003 10:21 AM
Does everything behind the mushroom cap belong to the drive system? Is this going to have both warp nacelles and a chemical thrust bell?
Looks good so far. My only suggestion at this point is to blend in those elbows on those forward tanks more.
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posted October 10, 2003 07:39 PM
Most (if not all) of what's behind the shield is part of the warp drive. The tanks are probably dueterium tanks (and perhaps some other replenishables, like water). The red spheres are Easily Ejectable Antimatter ContainersTM. And the aft part is mostly ion (or impulse) rockets.
Masao, what do you mean by blending in the elbows more?
posted October 10, 2003 11:34 PM
My mistake, Harry.
I'd suggest that the ship's sublight engines be a primitive impulse design. (Actually, impulse engines actually ARE ion engines, IIRC -- it's thrust generated by the plasma, really, just a bit more refined and sophisticated.) Actually, if this ship is from the 2090's or so, I think that a basic fusion-powered impulse engine would be just about right for thirty years after First Contact. Either home grown or developed with Vulcan assistance. (Genuine assistance, mind you, not ENT-style "assistance." )
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posted October 11, 2003 10:01 AM
Harry, you have a great looking ship so far. She looks like something that was built after the launch of the Phoenix. I can not wait to see her when you get done. Once again, great job.
posted October 11, 2003 11:20 AM
By "elbows," I mean those 90-degree connectors on the longitudinal pipes behind the shield. Rather than the elbows having much smaller diameters than the straight part, I'd just give them the same diameter and have a smooth but bent pipe (or you could have a smoothly tapering pipe).
Just my style, but do what you'd like!
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Added the forward hull (obviously designed by the DY company ). I stil have to work a bit on that connection arm, and I just realised that those antimatter pods are not necessary, as matter/antimatter aren't used yet in this era 8)
But I would like to have some greeblies there.. and the Jein model does have some sort of spheres there. Any idea what they might do?
posted October 19, 2003 02:26 AM
Fuel pods. I assume that whatever powers this thing needs to be shielded and kept away from the squishy little carbon-units.
quote: But I would like to have some greeblies there.. and the Jein model does have some sort of spheres there. Any idea what they might do?
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