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For the first half, you just scanned an old rusty pipe.
Admit it.
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"the UFP Council Chambers are in San Francisco"
Do we really know this for sure? I mean, ST IV made it appear that way, but personally I'm not so sure that scene actually displayed the "real" Federation Council anyway. Certainly with the transporation technology of the late 23rd century there's plenty of time for the President to jet from Paris to San Francisco during the course of the film.
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Establishing shot of the landing field wiht the Golden Gate bridge in the background, and a building off to the right bearing the legend "United Federation of Planets". Cut to --
Interior Federation Council chambers as we watch the fiery death of the Enterprise.
Seems a pretty easy leap to make, especially as they do the same thing at the end -- landing field, cut to the Council President saying "Bring in the accused".
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quote:Originally posted by Balaam Xumucane: Half later.
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But, A.) I just don't like that idea. B.) That obviously wasn't the Federation Council proper. Or, rather, shouldn't be.
I realize that that's the implication the movie wants to deliver, but I'm suggesting that it doesn't necessarily do it so strongly we can't ignore it if we want to, and, well, I want to, for a couple reasons which others may agree or disagree with to varying degrees. One, it just wasn't a very impressive set. It lacked the grandeur of, say, the UN General Assembly or the US Congress, and didn't have the compact franticness of the UK House of Commons. So, I mean, I don't like it on aesthetic grounds. Well, so what, you might ask. Well, it was filled with Starfleet personnel, which doesn't make much sense, unless you're one of those boring "Star Trek as fascist dream" people. And, finally, I doubt the Federation Council proper would waste its time on a hearing like that. That's what you have committees and subcommittees for.
So, I mean, this is mostly an issue of personal taste, with some minor 'textual' examples thrown in, but it seems to me reasonable, perhaps even likely, that what we saw wasn't the Federation Council, and could in fact be some distance removed from that body's usual meeting place.
(Of course, it doesn't make much sense to have an officer, even an Admiral, tried personally by the head of state. So who knows.)
On an unrelated note, I dreaded those Centauri throne room scenes from Babylon 5 for similar reasons, despite having some of the strongest acting in the series. The supreme leader of an interstellar empire (even one in decline) holding court in a hallway decorated like a set from a Shannon Tweed film? Yes, yes, budget, etc.
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My best guess would be that what we saw was the Federation Security Council. That would explain the small size of the room since it was a working room and not too concerned with not being impressive enough and the abundance of Starfleet personnel.
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I got the impression that the trial was held more for show and to appease the, uh, overzealous Klingon ambassador than to follow real judicial procedure.
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