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I agree, naming all the ships in the class after moons in the Sol System is a it Earth-centric for a vast interstelllar Federation (IMHO).
The other founding Federation worlds probably make insecurity jokes about humans always naming everything after themselves...
Still with 85% of the crew being non-human, that still means that 90% of the total crew will be humanoid with only the most minor facial additions or skin color variances.
I'd love to see an Andorian bridge officer: the way the Andorian character in the new DS9 books was handled was really well done. A lot of cultural background was etablished for the Andorians and I hope it's not just discarded.
Some trills would be nice as well: mabye that babe from the Enterprise will transfer over with Riker.
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: No USS The Moon?
(Also, why would names be translated like that?)
We dont know exactly how the UT translates cultural proper names: usually ship names dont translate at all but if someone asks what your ship's name means, that might be a problem.
I mentioned the same thing whan (on the JOAT forums) someone came up with the "Mephistopheles class". It's just a baaad idea: like naming your ship the USS Electra. Even the USS Phobos would take some explaining..."God of Fear" and all that.
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Soo. . . Luna-class, and NCC-80102. Question is, do we regard that as canon, canon-until-it's contradicted-onscreen-which is-unlikely-given-it'll-be-years-before-we-see-more-Trek-even-without-Riker-and-Troi, or non-canon?
I'm always suspicious of these themed naming schemes. Sisko called his Danubes after rivers because he felt like it. But having all Cheyennes names after Native American tribes. . . meh. One would hope they'd include non-Solar System moons right from the start. USS Praxis? USS Rura Penthe?
I'd wager most people in this contest are going to be thinking about an Intrepid-Sovereign cross. 450m and 350 crew is just fine, considering that Voyager was 344m long and had a crew of 150.
As such, I'm thinking SPACIOUS will be the key visual motif inside and out, in order to accomodate all the species they'll run into. Independent and redundant systems will also be a major factor, to highlight the endurance and reliability of the ship on super-extended missions. So, we're going to see considerations like:
- quad nacelles, OR notably advanced nacelles that can operate independently.
- expanded fuel and deuterium supply - Sternbach has written 3 years for Intrepid, five for Galaxy; we'd likely be talking 8-10 for Titan, no?
- if there's a separation capacity, each part would also be capable of significant warp AND sufficient capacity to house the entire crew for extended periods of time in each section, if one part were lost.
- bridge and all major facilities would be designed with significant ergonomics in mind
- Onboard manufacturing and repair facilities outstripping even the Intrepid class.
...And so forth.
So, if we're going to try to come up with a design from Flare, I'd suggest we start with a defined mission profile document (like at the start of the TNG:TM) and solicit design proposals that way.
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: So, if we're going to try to come up with a design from Flare, I'd suggest we start with a defined mission profile document (like at the start of the TNG:TM) and solicit design proposals that way.
Actually, the first thing I think we need to do is find out if we can actually legally submit a joint effort with people outside the US/Canada to the contest. It seems like most of you are better at finding out such things than I, how about you guys look into that, hmm?
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I'm no lawyer, but I'm willing to believe that an entry made on behalf of a group or entity is perfectly allowed. That's the bare minimum we'd get away with, though something on behalf of "The Flare Sci-Fi Forums" or somesuch could be allowed, as long as all participants agreed in principle that it is a group effort and will not seek individual credit or rights to the final design.
Then again, we could also make up an identity and submit it under that name - I've been looking for an excuse to use "Max E. Mumwahp" for a while now. But if you ask me, I think this would be a neat project for the gang to put together, even if we don't submit it.
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I strongly suspect that you can't have a group design like that, and that creating a fake person would be even worse.
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: I strongly suspect that you can't have a group design like that, and that creating a fake person would be even worse.
Agreed. We need to pick a represenitive, living in the US, and who is at least semi-active here.
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I'd say Mark or Masao, they seem to be pretty active and have a good working knowledge of starship design and such...
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quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: Well, time to start speculating...
I'd wager most people in this contest are going to be thinking about an Intrepid-Sovereign cross. 450m and 350 crew is just fine, considering that Voyager was 344m long and had a crew of 150.
As such, I'm thinking SPACIOUS will be the key visual motif inside and out, in order to accomodate all the species they'll run into. Independent and redundant systems will also be a major factor, to highlight the endurance and reliability of the ship on super-extended missions.Mark
Well, seeing as Troi will be there, I'm expecting a mission status similar to the E-D - or other long-term missions. Voyager was never going to have a Counsellor.
I don't think it should be too advanced.
Is Riker more of a 'local affairs' type Captain - or an exploring type Captain?
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quote:Originally posted by Masao: With 85% nonhumans, this ship is going to need a lot of toilets of various configurations.
Why? We've never even seen a toilet on Trek before. Mabye they just beam it out into space (the real reason starships have deflectors- right there).
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Is Riker more of a 'local affairs' type Captain - or an exploring type Captain?
The storyline is supposed to wrap up some Nemesis loose ends and then be all exploration.
A good thing too: there's only so much we need to see a starship endlessly patroling Federation space- far too much TNG became that and the Sovvie does no exploring at all from what we've seen.
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But if you ask me, I think this would be a neat project for the gang to put together, even if we don't submit it.
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