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AndrewR
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Yu's symbol in Johnny's picture is more correct than the other though. What episode was that with Ramius and Tilgath?

Any ideas for Camulus and the hot Japanese Goa'uld?

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Mark Nguyen
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"Evolution, Part I". We see Ramius' corpse for a few seconds at the top of the episode before the Kull warrior comes in blasting.

I'm of the opinion that Camulus and Amaterasu were second-liner System Lords who rose to greater power via attrition if nothing else. Camulus is the Gaul god of war, and associated with Mars/Ares (also a System Lord), killed in the late part of season 8. Amaterasu is the Japanese Sun Goddess and central figure to the Shinto religion (also the *only* Goa'uld whose religion is still practiced - there's no Christian or Buddhist or Muslim Goa'uld, yes?). As a benevolent deity in Shinto, she may have had a very interesting time on Earth back in the day. Too bad she's dead now.

Dunno about their symbols, though. Perhaps a dragon for Amaterasu, and a big obelisk for Camulus? [Smile]

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"...(also the *only* Goa'uld whose religion is still practiced - there's no Christian or Buddhist or Muslim Goa'uld, yes?)..."

No, but there was a Hindu one.

And Sokar was apparently posing as Satan for a while.

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Jason Abbadon
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Sigh.
Doesn't everyone eventually though?


I think we should see a Goauld Jesus: his regeneration chamber could be a big crucifix.

Though, a Gouald Elijah would fit the bill better from a mythological point of view.

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AndrewR
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Are there any Japanese/Shinto people who are annoyed at SG1 for portraying their god as a power-mad (albeit sexy) alien overlord?

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If they understood that the Goa'uld only took the persona of an existing cultural icon and didn't create the religion themselves, then they shouldn't be.
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Daniel Butler
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Shintoists don't have a 'god'...the general Japanese archetype for divine being is a 'kami' which doesn't really translate into English. "Divine being" is really the closest, but the first humans were kami as well.
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You also have to remember that when the Egyptians sealed the gate most of the world's religions wouldn't have been founded yet or would just be in the initial stages. Egyptian, Greek, Mesopotamian, and early Asian belief systems would be the major belief systems of the day. Islam, Christianity, Shinto, Buddhism, Hinduism, and the rest would all be "new" inventions. The one religion that would be around at the time but seems to have remained separated from the rest is Judaism, but that most likely is because of its unique monotheistic structure. The Jews would never accept a false god like Ra.
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AndrewR
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Yet as mentioned earlier HotAsianGoa'uld was a Shinto 'god'.

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Daniel Butler
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You could translate kami as god or goddess if you wanted, depending on what exactly the being was. I mean, you could call a river kami a 'river god'...

As for Judaism, it would be interesting to see Goa'uld depicted as angels and/or demons in rabbinic or kabbalic scriptures... like, Lilith Adam's first wife who refused to be on the bottom during sex and so was banished and birthed a hundred demons a day yadda yadda...being a Goa'uld queen spawning 'demonic' Goa'uld parasites.

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Well, incidentally...

http://www.cheyenneme.com/products/concept.php

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quote:
Originally posted by Johnny:
Silly editing thingamybob...

Here it is, http://www.johnpearse.partsking.net/JaffaSym1.jpg

Can't remember who the artist was, but they posted it on Scifi-Meshes. Might've been that Resistance dude, or Reverend. I get them confused.

Johnny, those images were made by me.

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AndrewR
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Where did you get Seth, Nirrti and Pyrus from??

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Pyrus and Nirrti I got off of http://www.stargatecaps.com/ Actually I got most from screen caps from that site.

Sorry, I don't remember the episodes.

For Seth, it is unknown if that is his actual symbole however it was used in the episode. It was seen on a flag of the Seth Cult.

Chevron26.com also has good references however some are a little inaccurate.

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Concerning the persona of the various Goa'uld and their relations to various Earth cultures... my guess concerning the timeline is that the various Goa'uld, at least in parts of the world where their persona were not 100% contemporary to the time that they ruled, may have somehow inspired their cultures to remember them in some way or another. Essentially, Amaterasu (the Shinto sun goddess) probably helped inspire the Shinto religion/philosophy, and now they remember her character without any knowledge of the original ruler.

For example, it's obvious that Sokar was the inspiration for Satan, but he couldn't have had any direct inspiration for any of the recent cults here on Earth. Therefore, all of the Earth cults' styling must have been passed down from the various memories and tales of Sokar's rule on Earth.

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