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Malnurtured Snay
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I'm working on a story, set during the Dominion War, in which a super-Cardassian battleship is running around behind Federation lines, ambushing Starships. When it destroys the USS Hood, Starfleet Command sends a group of ships out to find the Battleship and destroy it ... i.e.: The Bismark sinks the Hood during WWII and the Brits are so mad they order their whole fleet to find the Bismark and sink her ...

Now, here is/are the problem(s):

I'm theorizing that this Cardassian Battleship is utilizing some sort of stealth technology BESIDES a cloak ... it can somehow convince scanners (to a limited amount, at least) that it is not where it is ... this is how it is able to get past the various sensor and listening posts inside the Federation ...

I'm not sure how this would work.

Also, I'm trying to plot out how the Captains of three different ships (The Juno-Class Pancho Villa, the Sovereign-Class Segur, the Galaxy-Class Ark Royal, and an as-yet unamed Klingon bird of prey) coordinate their manuverings to find the Super-Cardie. I'm picturing them trying to plot out the Cardies' last known location and bearing, and fanning out on possible points from that, but -- ARGH!!! -- I'm lost.

Some stats on the Super-Cardie ship:

As big as a Romulan D'Deridex-Class Warbird ...

Is not able to travel at high warp speeds without losing the effectiveness of its stealth system.

May (or may not be) the Battleship seen in the DS9 episode "Valiant"

I'm guessing a crew compliment of 2,500 or so...

Will appreciate any/all help!!!! Thanks much!

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I say use some basic Sensor Jammers. The ship is still visible at close range though, therefore, it's find-able.

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Oh, hey, I also need a crew for the ARK ROYAL and the Klingon ship ... does IKC Deathstalker sound too forboding for a lowely bird of prey?

So, anyway, if you've got any cool names ...

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Well, if you want to stick to Klingon tradition, that BOP should be given a Klingon sounding name. Don't use Deathstalker. It's too...Human.

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Sounds really great!
If i were you i would use the Super-Dominion-Cruiser!
Or maybe a far more advanced version.... The DS9 Companion features a good aft view of one of the first scetches from the Dommie-ship.

That ship could also feature the long-range-tachyon-scanner ( able to scan other cloaked ships in a distance). Seen in "Once more unto the breach" DS9.

Anyway keep us posted about your progress! Sounds promising!

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I'm thinking the IKC K'oval ... BUT ... is IKC proper designation for a compliment of 12 Officers and crew aboard a tiny bird-of-prey? And ... what does K'oval mean????? (if anything) ... hell, when I was little I named a starship the USS Stopsign ... maybe thats what it means in Klingonese

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I think I'd use IKS, rather than IKC.

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Yeah ... that would work a bit better ...

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Problem with this story: The Bismark never was cloaked. From the time it left the coast of Scandinavia (sorry about the spelling), the Brits new the Bismark's location. Indeed, they new the ship was launching before it even left port. Nearly the entire cruise of the ship was shadowed by two british warships, however, the ships were so inferior to the Bismark that the captains dared not attack. The Hood confronted the Bismark, and, to the shock of all, the pride and joy of the British fleet was destroyed literally in minutes. The Bismark then set sail for a secure port in France, and, it was along this route that two British battle groups converged and sunk the ship. This was all just covered about two weeks ago on The History Channel!

What would be cool, is if a super-Cardie warship leaves Dominion space, is shadowed by two Starfleet vessels, lets say something like two Miranda Class ships. A Federation ship, the pride of the Fleet, like a the USS Sovereign herself, or, even, the USS Enterprise E (obviously not the "real" timeline!), meets the super-Cardie warship, and is destroyed in minutes. Shocked, the Feds deploy and entire Fleet to chase the Cardie vessel back to Dominion Space, and, again, history repeats itself.

My point: The ship doesn't have to cloak, just be tough as hell.

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The Dominion battleship isn't that attached to Cardassian naval operations. I'd doubt Weyoun would lend D'amar one of them, what with their relation not being so great.

A truly cardassian dreadnought would be very interesting, seeing as the cardassian navy is even more low on ship-classes than the klingons.

I don't want to criticize your choice of vessels, but isn't a BoP a bit small? I'll bet Worf could get himself a Vor'Cha if he'd be motivated and pulled the right strings.

I also love the story of the Bismarck, especially the theories concerning it's direct destruction.
I've heard that the armor-plating was so effective that none of the allied guns could penetrate it, even when it was blasted to a floating hulk.
Instead, the germans themselves armed some explosives under the waterline before getting in the lifeboats, kind of a "scorched earth"-thing.

And you got the spelling right, btw.

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The sensor-invisibility thing is a complex issue. AFAIK, the British knew of the launch of the Bismarck and Prinz Eugen, and could guess what their mission and initial course were, but were only able to track down the Bismarck because she began leaking massive amounts of oil after the first engagement and was thus easily spottable from air. Prinz Eugen was not harmed, and escaped detection. In the vastness of space, it might be possible for a non-cloaked vessel to disappear with ease unless it is leaking something or emitting more "engine noise" than usual.

It might indeed be a wonderful story if multiple elements of the Bismarck story were used: an initial spotting and shadowing of two Dominion ships, unexpected destruction of Starfleet's pride, confusion and temporary loss of the Dominion ships, tracking down the bigger one by her wounds, escaping of the smaller to ravage Federation shipping for a while.

The process of locating the wounded vessel would be similar to what Kira and Dukat did in "Return to Grace": deducing what the enemy captain would do and where he would choose to sail next. Only if our heroes guess right will they come close enough to the ship's path to spot her trail, and then home on to the ship herself. If they guess wrong, entire planets may be lost...

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Here is some giveaway from the DS9 Companion.

Hope it helps to develop your dreadnaught!

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I'm going to use certain elements.

The story begins with a reporter broadcasting his "inside info" on the real loss of the HOOD -- which, I would imagine, has become a bit of a symbol to Starfleet (not as much as the Enterprise, perhaps, but ...)

A Klingon bird-of-prey, completely by chance, happens across the Cardassian ships' trail and manages to track it for a short distance before losing contact.

The starship Pancho Villa, which was damaged during the attack on the Hood but managed to escape, is also on the trail of the ship, her Captain (actually, Commander Kalil al-Hamad is kind of POed about the loss of the Hood) and is taking his ship to try and find the Cardie (to the shock of his crew who want to go scurrying back to base).

Also on the trail is Acting-Captain Michelle Dasz and the crew of the Sovereign-Class SEGUR (that's a Highlander: The Series reference there); and the crew of the Galaxy-Class ARK ROYAL (and I need some names for that ship, too)

I'm going to use certain elements of the actual Sinking of the Bismark, but not all. The Pancho Villa will probably be destroyed in a conflict with the ship, but it will damage the Cardie's rudder (I'll figure out some technobabble), disabling the ship from moving, and allowing the other ships to close in and destroy it ... (the BISMARK was attacked off the coast of France, and her rudder destroyed ... the ship could only turn in circles, I believe, and could not get to a safe port, so the British were able to close in and blast her from the water). Finding where the uber-Cardassian ship is will be the main tension of the story: all we know is that she is proceeding away from the Andorian system, and heading towards several possible destinations well in Fed space...

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The opening:

"This is Miguel Molina, reporting live to you from the Third Fleet Flagship 'Akitshushima.' Deployed along the Andorian system, this fleet of close to nine hundred ships is here to defend the world from a suspected attack by the Dominion Fleet gathering above occupied Benzar.
"Just an hour ago, FIBNS learned that a mangled distress call from the USS 'Hood' was recieved last night. Many of you may remember the 'Hood' -- she fought in the campaign to retake the Chin'toka system. She has served in Starfleet for nearly forty years, and once, a long time ago, William T. Riker, the man who stopped the Borg after Wolf 359, served aboard her as Executive Officer. She was the lead ship in the Bor'al Colony relief effort. And last night, she was destroyed.
"Details are as yet, unclear. What FIBNS has learned is that the distress call was recieved by the USS 'Mair.' The 'Hood' and her escort ship, the Juno-Class 'Pancho Villa' came under attack by a Cardassian battlecruiser, of unknown design. During the conflict, the 'Hood' was destroyed and..." Molina stopped talking and frowned, someone was speaking to him through his earpiece. "Yes, it seems the Pancho Villa suffered heavy damage but was able to withdraw.
"Reporting live from the 'Akitshushima,' this is Miguel Molina for the Federation Independent Broadcast News Service."

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Another idea I had:

At some point, a distress call will be recieved: the ARK ROYAL, SEGUR, PANCHO VILLA will rush to the aid, only to find out its a civilian freighter whose captain panicked ...

Meanwhile, the Cardie ship hits a communication relay or something ...

Yeah ...

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