quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: It will also be moved to BBC2
Thank God for that...it's a pain in the whatsname trying to get BBC3 to be watchable every week. The amount of times the satellite signal is affected by a slight gust of wind is just not funny (it's a major problem in parts of South Wales, and an irony that those of us just 20-miles from where it's being filmed have trouble watching it on the first airing).
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"Indeed," says the guy who can drive by the Stargate franchise soundstages in Vancouver, but has to wait till months after the Americans watch his favorite show to discuss it with his friends who don't download it.
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Heh. When we moved into our house (just over the bridge from Cardiff) we had a digital-capable TV aerial installed, our Freeview box gets 100% perfect reception. Just didn't see the point in paying �40-odd a month for Sky.
(WARNING - this is a little too sexual so if you don't want to be offended, don't read it... sorry Charles)
Can you just imagine if Torchwood 4 were doing the operation?
"Jack! Its the Priminister on the phone...," Tosh shouts across the room
"Tell her to feck off, I'm having a wank..." Jack replies from his office.
"Jack! It's something about an alien ship over london.."
Owen laughs. Tosh glares at him. "What?" Owen laughs, "We are Welsh.... who cares if London gets wiped off the map. At least we might get the weather people to give proper regional reports...." "So do you want to take this call?" Tosh snaps glaring at him... "No darlin," Owen replies, "Suzies under the desk giving me a blow job.... do you want to join in?"
Yanto mooches across the room... Tosh looks at him. "Yanto, why do you have such a crap name?" Tosh asks. Yanto stops shocked... "Oh bugger... did I say that out loud....." Tosh mutters.... Vague gurgling sound comes from under Owens desk. "errr.... Tosh," Owen says gasping, "Arn't you forgetting something..." Tosh looks around questioningly "Oh bugger, my coffee... bet its cold now..." "No you silly bint... the Priminster!" "Oh crud," Tosh blurts out. "JACK YOU ARSE!" Tosh calls out, "Stop wanking and come take this phone call!"
A second later Jack appears from his office looking his usual handsom self, hair all neat and pretty... Jack gives Yanto a very sexual smile. Owen gives Jack a puzzled look as he zips his trousers up and suzie appears from under the desk. "Jack, what brand of hair gel do you use... I really must get some..." Jack gives Owen a cocked smile. "Who said I use hair gel??"
Jack looks at Tosh. "Now, what is so important that I had to stop my tantric wanking...." "Err.... ooohhhh.... sorry, its the priminister there is a .... ahhhh .... alien ship over ... mmmm... London." "Why in the name of god does that bother me... I'm American! As long as it is not over my head, who cares..." He pauses for moment... "Are you okay?" "ooohhhh its nothing Jack... Suzies is under my desk annnndd... ahhh... has just pulled my knickers down...."
"Cool! Can I watch?" Owen shouts out from across the room trying to sneek a peek.
Across the room Yanto is sneaking a cofin it to the building... nobody notices.
"Right, what the feck can I do for you," Jack says. Jack listens intently, occasionally uttering the odd mmmm and yes. "Okay.. yes, I understand. You know, and I don't mean you any diesrespect here, but you should call that sexy woman at Torchwood One. I think the switchboard put you through to the wrong number. No... this is Torchwood Four. We investigate sexual inuendos and cases involving lots of Ketchup. Yes, I understand and if London is wiped off the map, please accept our deepest condolences." Jack looks up from the phone to the sounds of Tosh squeeling like a pig and banging her keyboard violently. Owen, hands down trousers is egarly watching the whole thing. "You know," Jack says to nobody, as nobody is really listening to him, "Does anyone know what that receptionist of ours does?"
That's lucky...we can't get Freeview at all in the vallies. It's pay each month to make Rupert Murdock just that little bit richer, or go without.
Coincidentally, they were filming something for Doctor Who in our local cinema this past week. God knows what that was about, but if there's an episode coming up about a giant monster that doesn't like coal mining then that will explain it all.
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You've got a quarry or mine close to where you live? Lucky! Back in the day, Doctor Who fans near quarries KNEW it was just a matter of time before the show shot there.
Now, I actually genuinely looked forward to this weeks ep after seeing the trailer for it...
So, off to a good start, a whole world of possibilities. And then.....
Sex.
AGAIN.... Wow. They are really trying to break all records for the volume of sex put in a series. In fact I think they have surpassed anything ever seen before. They should perhaps re-release Torchwood for Season two through the porn industry.
So, Spoilers time.
Three people leave on a plane in 1953 and end up landing in 200? where Torchwood are waiting for them. Apparently they managed to get caught up in the Rift.
There are three separate stories going on through this ep.
1/ Young Girl who gets attached to Bugs Bunny (also known as Gwen) 2/ Sexy Pilot who spends most of the ep screwing Owen. 3/ Grumpy old man who spend his time with Jack.
After a flying start the ep after the first 5 minutes slows down to a snails pace and at times virtually stops. Ironically our three time travellers are deep and rich characters and this creates a major problem. It makes the supposid stars of the show look even more flat, two dimensional and dull.
These three characters outshine the regular actors in their portrayals, however at this point enters those pesky writers again. And rather than do something exciting with them, they plod them through the episode in a very predictable manner until the end. Which is a crying shame.
The result is this.... 1/ Young girl adapts to life in the 21st century and gets a job working in London. Woo hoo! 2/ Sexy Pilot after playing hanky panky with Owen (weasil) make him fall in love with her and then leaves in her plane heading back to the Rift... nice touch in the end, but could have been better written. 3/ Old man cannot adapt, is all alone. He in the end decides to top himself. Jack, like a good citizen, tries to stop him, but the truth is, he wants to die too. So they try to top themselves together.. except Jack cannot die. Looks like he has been wanting to die for ages.
Good old fashion message to people there. If life sucks, kill yourself. YAY TORCHWOOD!
So, and I am getting tired of saying this, Torchwood is given a good premise and then they FUBAR it once again.
The only thing I sincerely wish for here is a Toilet to fall out of the rift and flatten Gwen (and Owen if you could please) and get the Sexy Pilot back and make her a regular....
But we know that could not happen.... this is Torchwood.
My wife, avid Torchwood fan by her own admission (not sure what she sees in it), actually turned to me about 25 miunutes in and said "This is boring... when is something going to happen."
And in the end, thanks to the death of the old bloke I once again felt flat, saddened and depressed.
Seriously, this pap is written by the same people who did the Girl in the Fireplace?
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Was there even a plot last night? And is there anyone Owen won't sleep with? A plane falls through the rift, and his first thought is "ooo, I'll shag the pilot!".
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Oh, I dunno. It was better than the shite on the other side. Just.
I did like story 1 (young girl), story 3 (old man) was good, and didn't have a happy ending (although that's not so surprising for Torchwood), which I liked - sick old me.
Story 2 however was just Torchwood style porn. And not very good porn either. The ep was slow, thats not always a bad thing, but the chronicly bad writing is realy starting to piss me off now. If the writers are reading any reviews online then the I hope they will realise they need to up the bar for season 2. Or eaven lift it off the ground.
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The whole point of the episode was that there WAS no evil alien conflict or somesuch. Jack says as much halfway through the episode. The whole thing was about how three different people from 1953 would adapt to life fifty years later. We get three different answers. That was the point. That the Torchwood crew were even there was secondary. As that was the whole idea, I think it was done very well.
And yes, I'm really bored with the "sex ONLY 'cuz WE CAN!!!" attitude of some of these episodes. Though it was interesting to hear the term "fuck buddy" used in an SF television show.
At least Torchwood will have a lot to build upon for next year...
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Well.... time to take a look at the last three and to end my savage beating of this limp series....
Wevils...... Finally I thought to myself, here is a good ep. Strange gang kidnapping wevils, appearing to send them out on Murder missions.... ohhhh.
And finally the team do some investigating, Tosh amazing does some computer work, Owen (git) does some work too and the plot thickens. Wow... seriously, this is watchable TV.
But it had to happen... just as things get good, it goes down hill rapidly. Wevil fight club.... seriously.... We go from Murder, Suspense, intreigue to boring, boring and pap.... At the end I was on the edge of my seat when Owen went in to the cage....
Shouting... Kill him, kill him. But my hopes were dashed when Jack saved him...
So.... first 20 minutes 10/10. Good Last 20 minutes 0/10 - what a way to blow a story Last 3 minutes -100/10 - we did not get rid of the nob.
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1941 No idea what the ep was called.. Now, writing wise this was a good story. It revealed alot about Jack, and who he had become. And finally meeting the real Jack Harkness (?) was a rather interesting thing. The caretaker guy (forgot his name) was brilliant, well acted and seriously spooky. Overall I really enjoyed the episode and I would give it an 8 out of 10. ........... except....
The kiss between the Jacks at the end. Don't get me wrong, I am not a gay basher. In fact I believe that people are free to choose what ever lifestyle they want. So I will sum it up with this. I was chatting with a friend the other day who is gay about the ep and he actually summed up my thoughts on the matter very well. As Jack walks in to the light (rift), he looks back and that should have been it. But they took what was a touching moment and turned in to a drool fest. Much more than many people are willing to watch.... Once more, the Torchwood writers take a perfectly good episode and ruin it completely with sexual material. And I cannot help but think that this WAS 1941... All those red blooded airforce guys would probably have taken their leader out back and kicked the crap out of him.... people back then were not as open minded as they are today, as Torchwood itself proved with the Time travellers ep.
But.... the story had better writing in it than the rest of the entire series..... so I will overlook it and give this an 8/10. Good.
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Abba-don (Just a joke) Well, it was the series finale so they had to pull the stops out. Really it was take everything we hate about Torchwood and the characters, and then turn them against each other. It was all genuinely well written and the acting was above par for the crew. Except for Bugs Bunny, who has one facial mode - mouth shut and not smiling. If she smiles, you cannot take her seriously, and if she tries to be upset... well, I have never seen anything like that before. The nearest I can get is a 2 year old throwing a wobbly. At times I was laughing through the Reece Death scene....
Our baddie, the caretaker, was fantastic in his second show. With more acting talent in his little finger than everyone (except John Barrowman) he injected dark terror in to the episode. It was stunning.
Overall, the whole story as with most of Torchwood was cobbled together and held in place with sticky tape. But for once it worked and made for an entertaining episode. Although Ketchup made an appearance with the super Soaker blood fest all over again, it could be overlooked as it was the end of the world after all.
Perhaps the highlight of the episode however was the ending as the Tardis arrived and took Jack away from his group of dysfunctional morons.
I think I will give the episode a 7/10.
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Looking back at the whole series, I think that it is best summed up like this.
I currently own Seasons 1 and 2 of Doctor Who (new series) on DVD and we bought them when they first hit the shelf. Will I be adding Torchwood to this... no. I will not be buying then individually, and I will not be buying the box set. To be truthful, apart from the last two, I don't want to watch the series again. And with that, in my books it has been a failure.
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OK I've just read Stationmaster's and about 4 of the top posts in this thread. Yes I'm behind - but I've just started watching Torchwood.
I've seen episodes 1 and 2 so far - and everything mentioned in the first post pretty much hasn't happened in the first two episodes. And anything that HAS is fine. I.e. a lot of bitching about little things. This series is good. Who cares if a friggin' 4WD is one type or another. It's just a black 4WD. Sheesh!
Standing on rooftops... I think it's cool. Shows Jack is now a distant lonely character and at the end of the first ep - it shows him taking Gwen with him. An indicator that he will let her 'in'??
Basically it's Angel, and I don't mind in the slightest! BRING ON MORE TORCHWOOD!
Andrew
P.S. No, I'm not reading any more of this thread until I've watched more or all of season 1.
Andrew
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