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Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs
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The title says it all. What do you think are/were the most unacknowledged Science Fiction series' or movies?
I think I'd have to go with Space: Above and Beyond.
Thoughts?

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The First One
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That's a good one. But you might wanna qualify exactly what you mean by 'unappreciated.' Most TV SF is unappreciated, especially by network producrers who want to make it because it's popular, but then do all they can to kill it.
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I guess I mean underappreciated as a good quality show, with many good attributes, but just didn't seem to work out, or just was never popular, wether it be with network execs, or just fans in general.

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I extremely agree. S:AaB had it all. Well maybe to much "horror of war" and to little humour. But the FX were really great, and so was the story.

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I'll nominate "CUBE" FANTASTIC movie.

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'Cube' is indeed one to add to the list! Great movie, and it has Nicole deBoer

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How about Dune? I seriously like that flick! Haven't read the original books, but I really could relate to the story. I mean if you switch the Atreides with Starfleet, the Harkonnen with Klingon and those grunting little guys who were meant to be Ordos, who spoke in a translator all the time, with Romulans you have a good frame of reference.

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The First One
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Well, yes, but I'd like to accept Dune on its own merits. . . I personally like the film. Maybe it's the David Lynch surrealness. I don't know why I like it when so many people loathe it, and in that sense it's very much like Space: Above and Beyond for me.

I mean, looked at objectively, S:AAB sucked! The kids were all useless actors, the effects were ropy, the premise made no sense (they're fighter pilots AND grunts? Why? How do you justify that? Is it a Colonial Warrior thing?), they had bizarre guest characters (David Duchovny, pornstar Ashlyn Gere). . . yet it was great! James Morrison (as Colonel McQueen) couldn't act his way out of a paper bag, but was brilliant here in a way that excuses his later turns in Millenium and Prey.

*looks up more facts*

Ooh, Kristen Cloke is only 5 days older than me. . . noen of the main actors have done anything of note since apart from turns on The X-Files or Millenium. . . oh, yes - "Who Monitors The Birds?" is the best ep of the lot. It's got Dale Dye in it, Hawkes actually gets a haircut that makes him look like a Marine, he makes friends with a Chig then kills him anyway, and a zombified Captain Vansen wanders around in a bikini. Utterly brilliant. 8)


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I've read one "Dune" book, which is what the movie was based on. I can't say I hated the film, i watch it once in a while, just to hear Sting say "I will kill him." I think it was just to much book for one film. should have been two films. My copy is a directors cut, about four hours, and it still can't get it all in. I don't think I would have liked it without haveing read the book first.

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One word:
Brimstone.

Another word or two:
Flipping brilliant.

I watched two episodes of it that I taped over the summer again last weekend (the 'It's a Helluva Life' and 'Ash' episodes (all sp.)), and they've held up unbelieveably well.
Even when I now what's going to happen, the show is entertaining enough with it's characters and kidkass dialogue to eclipse most sic-fi shows.

And I don't even want to smell a "Brimstone-is-fantasy" argument. I just wanted to acknowledge this excellent show cut down in te prime of it's life.

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"Ultraviolet" from UK's Channel 4.
On last year, only six eps long. Blows Buffy out of the water for serious vampire drama!

(Out on video in UK, BTW!)

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The First One
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Supposedly they ARE making a second series, Monty. Of course, C4 may have changed their minds because it wasn't controversial enough. Maybe they need the money to pay for their interminable "PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE Subscribe to Film Four" commercials. . .
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Earth 2. Definitely Earth 2.

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Lee & Herring's This Morning with Richard not Judy.

What? oh, Sci-fi. Er, Buffy? Just cause it takes such an effort to convince anyone that the show isn't shit based upon their preconceived notions.

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Hmm. I can certainly see liking Dune the movie if you're a Lynch fan. It's a good Lynch film. Not exactly a good Dune film, but hey. Personally, I think a book like Dune is downright impossible to film, at least to the extent where a large number of people will be happy with the outcome. Obsessively freakish Dune fans (such as myself) are bothered by changes from book to movie, and more casual moviegoers are going to be turned off by the movie's detail. A lose-lose situation. Luckily, I happen to like Lynch, and I understand some of the problems when translating any book to the big screen. So, uh, I think it's ok.

Where was I going with this? Oh, right, unappreciated SF things. Uh, ExoSquad? Yes, I know it was a cartoon, but if we can have a Transformers Brigade around here...

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