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Mars Needs Women
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As far as Cylon models go, I don't think this is the end of the Ones, Fours, and Fives. It just means that all Cylons are mortals now. Deanna is the only Cylon model of which only one copy exist now that the Hub is kaput. Though it was awesome seeing those Vipers armed with warheads.
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Daniel Butler
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I did wonder why the hell they were glowing though. Can you imagine if real-world armies made their nukes glow? Kind of a "LOOK AT ME I'M A NUKE!" type thing...
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Well Cylon nukes always glowed IIRC. They glowed in the Miniseries and in Razor.
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I'm pretty sure that the nukes that the Vipers fired must have been supplied by the rebel Cylons. After all, Galactica has a very limited supply of nukes, and I seriously doubt that they would've shipped any of them over to the Cylon ship, truce or no truce. Plus, the Colonial warheads are probably sized for large missile tubes rather than wing-mounted fighter racks.

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Daniel Butler
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And it makes even less sense for the Cylons to make them glow ;P
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Cylons are all about things glowing, though. Scanners on Centurions/Raiders, scanners in rooms, spines, etc.

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quote:
Originally posted by Daniel Butler:

Something occurs to me - why would the Cylons design their resurrection systems to all coordinate through a central hub? What a massive danger that is. That'd be like humans building a ship which, when destroyed, caused every human in existence to contract a terminal illness. I find the idea of a 'resurrection hub' to be a deus ex machina.

Or if every Colonial ship connected to some sort of network, which if hacked into (by their evil living machine enemies) would give the enemy the ability to destroy their entire civilisation? [Razz]

It is too convenient to be believable, but before this there was that virus that could've been used to kill off all the Cylons without firing a shot, so maybe it was bound to be a deus ex machina from the start.

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Daniel Butler
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What virus? I don't remember that...
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Viral encephalitis iirc. From the beacon that had been taken aboard a Cylon baseship and killed most of the occupants. I seem to remember the Colonials toyed with the idea of spreading the virus through the rest of the Cylons somehow.

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That never made sense either. How can an organic virus be transmitted in a brain/memory type upload?

As for the Colonial network, it wasn't that they hacked a single system to take down the fleet it was that Baltar allowed Six access to the defence mainframe on the sly and with that access she was able to install a back door into the new defence operating system that was then uploaded to all the Basestars, Vipers, orbital and ground bases.
If you remember the mini the Raiders had to be there to transmit the backdoor exploit virus, which is how the Vipers were switched off and wiped out while Boomer & Helo escaped because they were never in transmission range.

One thing I did notice was that the Cylons didn't seam to bother trying to cut communications as reports were still getting out even after they started switching ships off (Dee mentioned reports of weird equipment malfunctions) one wonders if they factored in the demoralising effect all the reports would have on the stragglers.

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Daniel Butler
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Oh, yeah! I remember now. I blocked it out because it was killing me - I was trying to justify the whole memory upload/organic virus thing so I could suspend disbelief for just one more show without shooting my screen. I almost had an aneurysm and gave up.

The demoralizing effects, maybe, or perhaps they just didn't care if the stragglers could communicate. If they were confident enough of their plan then it might just have not mattered to them. Or, if they intended some small group to survive (which seems more and more likely) they might have left communications intact to facilitate them finding each other and forming the Renegade Fleet.

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So, why can't the Cylons rebuild their resurrection hub?
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You tube ftw. .... but i'm still utterally confused...

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I'm sure they could but it might take a lot of time and resources, something they don't have with the current situation. Better question is why they don't have more hubs if they're so important.
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Given the holes in the Cylons' memory of their own past, it's quite possible that they don't even know how the thing worked.
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