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I'm glad that I wasn't the only one to notice Sylvester McCoy's unusual choice of outfit! :-) My wife turned to me and asked "He does realize he had to give the outfits back when he left the job, right?"
As for a past Doctor cameo, I think it would make more sense if it were the Eighth, as it's implied that the Eighth to Ninth Doctor regeneration was a result of the war. That said I always thought the events of "Remembrance of the Daleks" fitted in well as part of the Time War, so the seventh could have been involved I suppose. After all there's no reason why the events of a time war would need to happen in chronological order, is there?
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: They've already said that Tennant is going to be in the specials they're running next year.
Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff going on most likely. While I do personally think it unlikely that The Doctor would regenerate (my initial thought when watching was that Captain Jack would do his thing where he gives people life to prevent the regeneration, as he did quite a lot during the first year of Torchwood), it's not impossible. The thing is 'Doctor Who' is all about time travel, and we've seen before the big reset button of doom being used. But given that we've known that Davros would be back in this episode for several months, I do find it unlikely one major spoiler would be so conspicuous while another would be completely hidden. It would be ironic though that the last three regenerations for The Doctor would be due to encounters with the Daleks...
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There may be going to be two Doctors, maybe even a third, perhaps due to the presence of the hand and something to do with Donna (mention has been made of a ring she's suddenly wearing, leading to...). One of them may be the Master. There may be a massive reset button (again) due to the one-second-out-of-phase thingy. So the speculation goes.
Or, maybe the Beeb have managed to successfully fake everyone out and introduce a new Doctor without it leaking, and shots of Tennant filming the Christmas ep, and the announced specials next year, are all a smokescreen. It just better not be James fucking Nesbit is all I'm saying. David Morrisey I could just about handle. Some are even reading something into RTD's referencing of a couple of Hugh Grant movies during Confidential.
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The new Doctor is to be played by Gordon Brown. He'll defeat the Daleks by imposing a crippling green tax on exterminations.
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Or Gordon Ramsay, and he will travel time and space to insult chefs around the whole of creation.
Now, here are some $$$$$$ spoiler warnings from Christmas Special set photos.
There are photographs of DT and David Morrissey. DM in a Doctor-ish looking outfit (some people even claim he has question marks on his vest). Now, the most outrageous claims are that DTs presence there could be a smoke screen for him leaving, but I find that hard to believe with all the assurances of him staying for the specials. So.. the current theory I am sticking with is that he will properly regenerate into DM, but that his hand in a jar will also regenerate/grow into DT. Hence, two Doctors. But.. Dalek Caan mentioned the "Threefold Man", so there may still be one more element to all this. To be honest, I don't expect any previous Doctors in this episode, as it's already overcrowded.
Another possibility and explanation of "the Threefold Man" is that the regeneration does fail. Remember, we have the exact three companions in the Tardis that we were told were special. Rose looked into the Heart of the Tardis, Jack is infused with Tardis-dust and Donna is apparently something special as well. What if the regeneration somehow fails, and the Tardis intervenes and 'diverts' the regeneration into the three companions? They could later reconstruct the Doctor using his hand.
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Okay, to use the same spoiler-avoiding method of reply:
I don't buy that David Morissey is the next Doctor, and certainly not in that outfit. I don't know why, to be honest, but I'm just not going for it. They've gone to great efforts to make the new series interesting, cool and modern, while tipping the hat to the old series enough to show the sheer affection many of the production staff have for it and bring older fans along for the ride, and up to now I think they have managed to keep older and newer fans mostly happy. I just don't see them taking what I think would be a step back with the old stereotype of the "Edwardian Dandy" Doctor with the fancy outfit. I think that would be too much of a slide backwards into cliche. Don't get me wrong, I think David Morissey is a fine actor who could do a lot with a role like the Doctor, but not as a caricature.
Aaaand back into the land of the visible text, hints and rumours abound that there will be two Tenth Doctors, one of which will depart with Rose into Pete's World. If so, which one of them will get custody of the TARDIS? It's always the same, the Time Lords go their separate ways and the transdimensional time capsules get caught in the middle...
quote:Originally posted by Lee: Or, maybe the Beeb have managed to successfully fake everyone out and introduce a new Doctor without it leaking, and shots of Tennant filming the Christmas ep, and the announced specials next year, are all a smokescreen. It just better not be James fucking Nesbit is all I'm saying. David Morrisey I could just about handle. Some are even reading something into RTD's referencing of a couple of Hugh Grant movies during Confidential.
I think such a smokescreen, unfortunately, is extremely unlikely but an increasingly large part of me wishes so much that they had pulled such a thing off. That a TV show could manage to keep such a secret and fling the viewers a genuine surprise in this day and age of internet sites, forums, youtube, flickr and hordes of obsessed little berks walking the streets of Wales with web-enabled cameraphones...I wish it were so, I really do, much as I have enjoyed David Tennant's Doctor. I just don't see it happening. Alas.
And James "Fucking" Nesbit (is that a callsign, like Lee "Apollo" Adama?) wouldn't be so bad, surely? As long as he didn't try to give away Yellow Pages on every planet the TARDIS visited he would be ok.
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Not to spoil the stuff you've taken the time to carefully redact, but why would anyone think there was anything fishy about a guy's being dressed in Victorian costume whilst filming a Victorian scene?
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I don't think there's anything fishy about it at all - the Christmas special is rumoured to be set in Victorian times and so the outfit makes sense. I agree on that and think that the guy is just there as part of the scene, not as any new leading man. I was just responding to an idea that I think would be a step backwards for a show that has managed to do rather well in recent years.
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Agreed - if only for the notion that EVERY Doctor save the Eighth has been dressed in relatively contemporary garb for the show at the time.
In the 60s, it was not unknown to see older men dressed in Edwardian frocks or check pants; the 1970s had the smoking jackets and frilly disco shirts that Jon Pertwee wore; save Tom Baker's scarf, his outfits were relatively off the shelf; and Peter Davison's and Colin Baker's costumes refected the loud and clashy 1980s kid show motifs. The two modern Doctors we've seen have basically continued this trend, using available 2000s fashions to look relatively blended-in with the locals. I expect this to continue.
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I notice you skip the Seventh! :-) Poor old Sylvester, what has he ever done to hurt you? Mind you his outfit was fairly generic, just a jacket, trousers and jumper so nothing too out of the ordinary there. I have to say though, regarding the sixth Doctor...I don't remember ANYONE wearing anything like that, and while I might not have been around for the sixties or a lot of the seventies, I would have remembered something like that from the eighties!
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Looked at that way, the 6th and 7th Doctor outfits were perhaps the most anachronistic for the time period they were filmed in, and look what happened? The show got cancelled. They were also the least popular portrayals, with me at least, and while I'm not a full-blown DW fan I'm at least open to the concept; much of the other audience wouldn't have been.
I think this is the first time I've seen a pic of Morrisey from the Xmas Special filming. From that I'd say it's pretty-much certain he's not the new Doctor, it's not a believable look. Of course, Tennant spent most of his first outing (the 2005 Xmas show) in pyjamas and dressing-gown, so he could still be finding his feet, as it were, in terms of how he'd like to dress.
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I left off Sly's outfit because despite its eccentricity, it was relatively unoticable for the late 80s. Like the first two Doctors, it was a little old fashioned, but not enough to really stick out during the modern day adventures.
Speaking of which, Sylvester McCoy DOES dress like that. He uses a cane these days (per convention reports), and the hat his Doctor wore during his tenure was in fact the actor's actual hat that he wore to the audition. It similarly appeared and was lost in the TV Movie (again, Sly's actual hat) but it seems the old topper has finally been replaced as of 2008, unless McCoy wears several hats while out and about.
EDIT - According to this Wiki picture taken in June of this year, he's still got his old Panama hat - and his dress cues are basically the same!
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