But isn't there a series after the "car bots" where it shows Optimus Prime is just the "commander" of the earth sector, and there's a bigger guy that Optimus has to report to? He was later destroyed and re-incarnated into some other bot.
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Are we talking about the US or Japanese continuities?
If we're talking US, then Optimus was the leader of the Autobots. Until he died. Then it was Ultra Magnus (for about 5 minutes), and then Rodimus Prime. Then Optimus again, because people moaned.
(In the comics, there were people above Optimus, but he was the head of the Autobot "army", as it were, and no-one would argue with him).
In Japan, I'm a little more shaky. HOWEVER, I think it follows the US one, up until Optimus comes back after dieing. He then dies again, and Rodimus becomes leader. Again. He then buggers off, and Fortress Maximus becomes leader. Then we have Star Sabre, god Ginrai, and various other people, all of whom look rather a lot like Optimus Prime (or Convoy to be picky). I know that God Ginrai was someone else who happened to look like Powermaster Optimus Prime, but I think that Star Sabre was the same person.
Anyway, it doesn't matter, as Car Robots takes place in a completely different continuity. Probably. I think that the original Convoy might have been mentioned, but I'm pretty sure he hasn't been seen.
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Hmm. Ok, olive branch, say I give this universe a chance (just to see if I can rid me of some prejudice), what would be a good Volume to sample? You know, not the first, oldest episode, but also not the latest, which is prolly filled with plots and intrigues I am unaccustomed with? Something in the middle. Like, a "Q Who" or "The Jem'Hadar" for TF?
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You're thinking slightly too much in Anime terms there. Transformers isn't anime. It's, well, a hodgpodge of about 9 million different continuities, some of which borrow from others.
The "purest" Transformers are probably the three US 1980s seasons, but they are, essentially, kids cartoons. And not often shown.
The "best" storyline, in my opinion, is the US Beast Wars storyline. It had depth, ongoing arcs, and some surprisingly good characterisation. As well as a healthy smattering of sex and violence.
Apparently, the best Japanese series are Victory, and, er, the one after it. Zone, I think. But I've no idea of the characters in that.
The Japanese Beast Wars series are suppossed to be fairly childish and awful (and their dub of the US Beast Wars series is also suppossed to be bad. HA! See how they like it when they get a bad dub).
Car Robots is completely seperate, as far as I can tell. I couldn't tell you how good it is. I'm sure it's aimed at a fairly young audience. The toys are great though. Blow most of the Beast Machines toys out of the water (and I like Beast toys).
Of course, the best storyline would be the UK comics, written by Simon Furman. But you're not likely to find many of them in the US anytime soon.
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And also remember, that these have been written over 15 years, some only available in the US, some only avaialable in the UK, and some only in Japan. So it's pretty much a anightmare from beginning to end.
However, a good basic groundwork from the US series would probably start with "More than Meets the Eye" (the opening 3 part pilot episode), and the movie. Which is now available on DVD. And First owns it. Ask him if it's any good, because I don't want to change tenses in mid-paragraph.
The whole of seasons two and three of Beast Wars would be cool too. But try and get the originals, not the cut versions currently showing on FOX Kids.
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Somebody posted a link to a place which had descriptions and prices (and ordering?) for the Transformers that weren't nominally available in stores here (God Red Alert, or something, etc.)
Can whoever that was post it again?
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I used to own Optimus Prime (big one with trailer armour), and the one of the bad guy assemble with a M-1 tank, and what I think is a "black bird" airplane. That one also can turn into a mobile base.
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Powermaster Optimus Prime, G2 Megatron & G2 Starscream (Which was pants), it sounds like.
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And since you're Swedish, I suppose those are Foreign Flicks?
"But I'm sure many of you can beat that right?"
There's something here. About Simon possibly, but this one is best used for all of us to cultivate and grow our imagniations.
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I should've expected that. Funny though, "flicka" is girl in swedish, but you prolly knew that too, didn't you, Gaylord? (see if you can spot that one)
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Uh, I can't, you know, without taking it as a grave insult, upon which your family will pay with their blood.
Well, I don't get it.
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