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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Funny, I think the third is by far the worst of the bunch.

It's been a trend, IMHO. The second one wasn't quite as good as the first one, and the third one wasn't quite as good as the second one, which means it was not nearly as good as the first one, etc...

I always thought it was pretty much a given that it's the death sentence for a movie series when you have a movie based on a book, and then follow it with one that isn't, just for the sake of doing a sequel. I mean, it happened with Jaws, it happened with Planet of the Apes, it'll pobably happen with Silence of the Lambs, et. al.

And especially when Speilberg didn't direct it.

Overall, I don't think JPIII was a total waste of time. It was entertaining, but it wasn't really that good of a movie. IMHO.

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I still don't get how the chick manage to get TWO amphibious carriers to rescue them.

Chick phone the military.

"Oh my god, my buddies are trapped on the dinosaur island, you must save them!"

"Do you have any prove?"

"Not really, I just got a phone with some messages that's totally messed up with background noises..."

"Will we be rescuing anyone with important value to the country?"

"I guess not, one of them is a dinosaur Prof. at some university, one of them make toliet, and we got one house wife and one student."

"Sounds good enough, we have nothing to do anyway, might as well waste a couple million bucks on these guys. We'll pick them up with TWO carriers and shitload of marines two days later"

Plus the fact that a kid no more then 16 survived in the jungle for 8 weeks is corny.

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The first movie was great because it resurrected and improved the "survival" movie genre greatly, coupled with showing state of the art CGI of dinosaurs from the new generation of blue screens. It was bound to succeed.

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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BlueElectron:

I think she probably phoned Hammond or somebody at InGen, etc, who could actually get the military to do something.

But yes, it was a bit corny.

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I disliked the first one enough to skip the second alltogether. I should not have read thre bok first, I couldn't put it down, and got a little to worked up for the movie.

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Well first, guys, Ellie Satler's husband was in the STATE DEPARTMENT. She mentioned that to Grant. That's how she was able to get US troops to Isla Sorna.
Now, I was thinking ever since the movie was conceived that they would go back to Isla Nublar. But it was Sorna. In the book of JP, it is bombed back to the Jurassic period. And likewise, all these people live: Muldoon, Gennaro; and Wu and Hammond get eaten. It's a lot different. They reused some stuff from the first books in JP3, which is the second best of the series. Still, they are all good films (JP1 is the best).
Any thoughts on JP4? (Spielberg said he liked this one so much, a fourth is in the works).

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I'd like to see the return of Jeff Goldblum. I hope it doesn't become like the original Planet of the Apes film series getting worse each passing sequel.

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...I haven't yet seen the third flick.

But I HATED the second one. What a HORRIBLE movie. ICK. UGH. Yicky. My hated for TLW actually came about with the novel: they kill off Ian Malcolm in the first one, then he's just "miraculously" brought back to life? EWWWW. Horrible book, even worse movie.

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The only person with enough power to mobilize a military expedition forces in such a short notice without the consent of the American public is the president of the United State. And even if a person does have a connection with the president, which is highly unlikely, I dought the president will make such an order, because he cannot rationalize such decision to the general public.

Imagine a Whitehouse conference:

"Mr. President, why have you send a fleet of two carriers to the restricted zone of the dinasour island and waste millions of dollars on fuel, supply and thousand of man-hours?"

"Cuz some friends of my friend of my friend got trapped there for some dumbass reasons."

"Are they SIGNIFICANT or ESSENTIAL to our country in anyway?"

"Not really..."

"Is there any POLITICAL reason involve here that intervine with our nation's agenda?"

"Not quite..."

"Then, may I ask you this sir, WHY THE HELL ARE WE DOING THIS?"

"ahhh....hmmmm....ahhh.....cuz my friend told me so?"

I don't care who's husband is working with state department, or the damn corporation that build the place got involved, they simply do not have the power to do anything, and even if they have the power, they don't have the right answer to the public, and public opinion is everything my friend, without it, you'll end up knee deep in shit.

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Um.

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Um, Jeff, we're talking about how Ellie's husband in the State Department was able to get some aircraft carriers to the island at the end of JP3.

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-Or-
the fleet was passing near the islands when the call for help arrived. The military is obligated to help those in need. This situation would qualify as such.

The US government, in this movie and the last, seem to be ambivalent in its opinion of the islands. They seem to be helpful of the creatures, but would like to deal with the islands as little as possible.

One of the mysteries of the film is who or what ate the crew of the parasail boat. I know that originally that there were going to be sea-dinosaurs. However, this idea was nixed. I don't believe that sea-dinosaurs could be replicated and modified like the other dinosaurs. The other dinosaurs are land based dinosaurs that would have been good food for an hungry fly. Where would an hungry fly get the oppurtunity to drink the blood of a sea-dinosaur?

I work at a retail store, see name. While there, I notice that the toys for this third film represent characters or vehicles not seen or mentioned in the film. One of the toys is a general and several military vehicles. I think that in a previous script of the film, the military may have had a greater role in the film.


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A little kid surviving for 8 weeks is a little corny. but a nine year old Anakin Skywalker building, and racing a podracer at 400+ MPH, then getting into a starfighter he's never seen before, and blowing up a giant battleship. NOW THAT"S CORNY!!!

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No, that's ludicrous.
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But, in comparison to Jar Jar...
I think the dinosur that ate the boat crew in the beginning of JP3 was the Spinosaurus. They've established it can swim in water (or at least wade in it). And that dinosaur was the "star" dinosaur of the movie, so it would most likely be one.
Also, did anyone else notice that Cartosaurus or whatever it was called, the red chameleon thing with the horn on it's snout, come out, look at the group, and then go back in the bushes? I wonder why they added it in.

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